People died from mRNA shots...results from autopsies in Germany

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  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am glad I chose

    one shot J&J
    messenger RNA Free.


    And like Senator Rand Paul, MD
    trust in my "innate" immunity too.
    Dr. Paul & I are so old. y'see
    And probably experienced similar viruses
    in the fifties.
    The immune system has memory!


    Moi, MD :oldman:
    UCSF '74





    Fire Fauci!
     
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    So I am NOT qualified to offer opinions on medical issues, let alone analyze that study?

    The pattern continues...
     
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    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not qualified to offer opinions on car repair...I don't know anything about it.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    I believe you.
     
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  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What makes you qualified to offer opinions on the clot shots?
     
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    Certainly not. Your opinion shopping and both your and your sources' poor credibility just adds to it.
     
  7. Nwolfe35

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    Nothing, which is why I don't. I look at what the consensus medical opinion is.
    I also look at what the conspiracy theory posts here say and look at those claims.

    For example when someone claims that the vaccine is dangerous and they use VAERS as a basis for that claim I know I can dismiss it because I understand that is not what VAERS is for.

    Most (I would almost say all) conspiracy theories about COVID and the vaccine rely on a misinterpretation of data and that is easy enough to look into.
     
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    What makes you qualified to question anyone on anything?
     
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    Speaking of questionable sources. Your website used for evaluating media sources is made up by an arm chair health care worker who has zero journalistic and educational expertise.

    You should be embarrassed.
     
  10. Nemesis

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    I don't use ridiculous fake news sources, my hysterical chum. If you use the Epoch Times for a "news" source, I AM embarrassed. For you.
     
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    trumptman Newly Registered

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    Your link for evaluating what you call “ridiculous fake news sources” is in fact a hilarious joke. I will prove it to you using the actual information on that website if you are brave enough to cite and link the website you are using for your media claims. I’ll provide additional info just to add salt to the wound.
     
  12. UntilNextTime

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    What you find within the "questionable" op main link is interesting. Maybe you should take a look at these.
    Don't forget, these are within the op's link if you're not too lazy to look for them. Or is it that you're in denial?

    Autopsy-based histopathological characterization of myocarditis after anti-SARS-CoV-2-vaccination
    The role of macrophages in the resolution of inflammation
    Clinical Considerations: Myocarditis and Pericarditis after Receipt of mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Among Adolescents and Young Adults
    Myocarditis and Pericarditis After Vaccination for COVID-19
    Idiopathic Giant-Cell Myocarditis

    So after you take a look at these links extracted from the op, will you convince yourself these are bullshit too?
     
  13. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    There is plenty of evidence to support a conspiracy, the only thing stopping the masses that fell for the scam and don't want to join the dots is their denialism.
     
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    ~ Statistics from highly mRNA vaccinated countries show a trend — more vaccine = more " unusual" deaths.
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  15. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    How about this as a solution?

    The next time a contagious virus pops up the drug companies start work on effective vaccines and once they are developed, the government says that it it highly recommended that people get vaccinated. But it is perfectly OK if people don't get vaccinated but if they do get sick they will not be admitted to the hospitals. Once 75,000,000 die as a result the other dummies might wise up and get vaccinated.

    Isn't that a good plan that will satisfy everyone?
     
  16. UntilNextTime

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    I wonder if people have heard of 'mind games'. That was the ace up the sleeve to get people to take that rubbish covid jabs that cause more harm than good. Do you ever get the feeling you've been duped on the highest level? Bill Gates states the following, "through effective vaccines, we can reduce this number".

    https://rumble.com/v1bvde5-bill-gat...-the-population-using-vaccines-and-abort.html
    This was around 2012 when he spoke at a TEDx talk.
     
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    Here's a much better plan....

    Don't mandate ineffective "vaccines" that now have negative efficacy after four shots.

    No one needs to be convinced when something is clearly effective. We can all remember the big White House celebration where Biden and company celebrated being able to remove their masks and how things were going to go back to normal.

    We can also remember about two weeks later when they all slapped them back on.

    The reason they slapped them back on.... you had a vaccine that.... doesn't not prevent you from being a carrier because you still can have and transmit a viral load. It does not prevent you from getting sick due to that viral load. Finally now that we are several months down the road and of course all the numbers are being manipulated and hidden, it doesn't prevent severe symptoms or death.

    The shots were ****.

    It would be easy to convince people IF they were effective but get rid of your masks and go back to normal because Grandpa and Grandma are safe quickly became get two shots and then two more and wear your masks because no one is safe.

    BTW there is not another vaccine out there that you are recommended to get AFTER you've already had what it vaccinates against. ZERO.
     
  18. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    How do you tell the difference between medical opinion consensus and conspiracy theory?
     
  19. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I read alot and am an independent thinker.
     
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    Are they BS? You tell me. They claim the cases are rare, while you claim the jab is a killer.

    If you don't want to take the jab, then don't take it, but what's the point of trying to talk others out of taking it when it has saved countless lives?
     
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  21. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Anybody that still thinks the jabs don't kill is oblivious to what's going on in the world around him. Whether genuinely oblivious or willfully so is another matter.
     
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    Consensus: a) A general agreement. b) a judgement arrived at by most of those concerned.

    When the majority of people in the medical community agree and can present evidence (and in the case of COVID and the vaccines, the VAST majority) you have a consensus.

    If a minority disagrees and cannot present evidence (and in the case of COVID and the vaccines, a very SMALL minority) then it's a conspiracy theory.
     
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    Anyone who thinks the jab is killing large numbers of people is oblivious to what's going on in the world around them. Whether genuinely oblivious or willfully so is another matter.

    The difference between your statement and mine is mine has actual evidence to back it up.
     
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    That means nothing. I read a lot to. I read mostly mysteries and science fiction with a good amount of science fact. It still doesn't make me qualified to speak about car issues.
     
  25. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    What if, as happened with the Opoid Affair and the clot shots, you discover that many in the medical community received financial payment for telling lies favorable to the Opioid manufacturers?

    How do you act when you realize that doctors are mere humans and quite susceptible to saying and writing what they are paid to say and write? How do you handle that?

    Perhaps you just pretend it ain't so. :lol:
     

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