Permitless carry set to take effect in Florida July 1st

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    ...it may be due...

    May be... and may be not.
    If it might be true, then it might not be true, and thus does nothing to prove a claim.



     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't help noticing your flailing "yeah but" defense is thus far based on nothing more than your uninformed opinion.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    I can't help but notice you have no defense for the absolutely sound criticisms against your argument and the source you used to support it.

    Hint:
    Lack of empirical evidence, associations, implications and "maybes" do not constitute proof.
     
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  4. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Do you?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I doubt any of the anti gun rights advocates on this board have anywhere near the knowledge I do on this subject. Of course i know what it means-it means they don't know
     
  6. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Are you losing the debate? Don't worry about it. Simply go after the person you're debating with instead.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oooohhh...you are such a funnel of knowledge. Those "anti gun rights advocates" are everywhere. They're coming for you man. LOL

    Maybe you can use some of that endless wisdom to figure out what other posters are telling you, because it doesn't seem like you are getting it. You always assume people say something they are not saying, or are motivated by something they never said motivates them.

    Like this:
    So, lot of things can affect crime rates, like the chaos in 2020. Same was also true after 1990 when crime dropped nationwide, although you are trying hard to credit it to change in CCW laws. LOL. Talk about irony.
     
  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I have seen you accuse him of wanting mentally ill people armed several times
     
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  9. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Can't.
     
  10. Cybred

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    You cite the 10th, so in what states constitution is it in?
     
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    No, he's been accused of not caring if they are.
     
  12. jcarlilesiu

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    Sure they can.

    They are both constitutional rights. Both come with great responsibility. Both are capable of dictating the direction of this countries leadership.


    They are actually very similar on multiple levels.

    Ok. So. I guess States are completely free to impose a registration fee to vote then too right? You would accept this under the purview of the 10th?

    I agree

    Also agreed.

    I agree with you right up until the point of excess.

    That gives the government opportunity to create excess to fund other pet projects.
     
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    Once you get past voting and firearms being Constitutional Rights, they are not the same. For instance I think firearm registration is unconstitutional so that takes care registration fees. And, voting registration fees would be considered a pole tax which is illegal.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    yeah you can-its called the tenth amendment, for starters. the federal government has no such proper power
     
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    it is as laughable as his attempts to claim he is not anti gun ownership
     
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    so in what states constitution is it in?
     
  17. FatBack

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    Almost as funny as the claims not to be a full-blown progressive.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    The 10th amendment applies to every state in the nation.... Just like every amendment
     
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    So in what states constitution does it say that gun registration is prohibited?
     
  20. FatBack

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    The same one where it says they can't come to your house and use your last stick of butter or kick your puppy or your little kitten
     
  21. Cybred

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    So it doesn't.
     
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    oh you are claiming a state level. that is a fair point since a state government might well have the power to demand registration but under BRUEN I doubt that power can survive incorporation
     
  23. FatBack

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    Show me where the Constitution gives you the right to type this on your cell phone?
     
  24. Cybred

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    It doesn't.
     
  25. FatBack

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    And yet you enjoy sitting here typing nonetheless... Maybe I should write my congressman and see about that dangerous freedom you're enjoying
     
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