Peter Navarro is Right. Give Them Hydroxychloroquine

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  1. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    Hydroxychloroquine is safe when administered correctly. Even if the evidence is "anecdotal" it doesn't hurt so give people the drug. This virus has a 2% fatality rate so even if the drug does no better than nothing 98% of the people who take the drug would survive. You can eat a pangolin and a bat with hydroxychloroquine and you'll likely survive. So give the drug to people. Give them hope. 98% recovery is amazing.
     
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    That's gonna be real hard to do now that India has shut off the export of that drug.
     
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    Another reason for a return to manufacturing and isolationism. No Foreign Entanglements.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I took some variety of it almost daily for a year in Vietnam.
     
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    You want to spend more money for an inferior product? Because that's how you spend more money for an inferior product.
     
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    Yes, it's better to listen to a Doctor of Business or in Trump's case a Doctor of BS than a Doctor of Medicine for a case like this.
     
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    It's one of Trump Whisperer Giuliani's nutjob confections.

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    That means that it is contraindicated for rational applications.
     
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    Idahojunebug77 Well-Known Member

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    That wasn't/ isn't the issue, the issue is having no available product, regardless of price and quality.
     
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    It does however have significant side effects and why take a drug that does not work?

    It did not work in Wuhan

    And given we are still head scratching about the exact mechanism by which this virus affects the lungs it might just turn out to be doing more harm than good

    https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/
     
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    Cow urine is safe when administered correctly. Even if the evidence is "anecdotal" it doesn't hurt so give people cow urine.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-india-cow-urine-pa-idUSKBN2110D5

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    Did anyone say not to listen to your doctor?
     
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    So if you are put in the position where you ask your doctor are you going to argue with him because, you know, Trump says..........because people will. This isn't leadership, it's insanity.
     
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    No, and trump has said to duscuss it with the doctor
     
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    The point is, people will. Trump says a lot of things. King of double talk.
     
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    I heard a Doctor on Fox news. He said the stuff has minimal effect if any at all. It is a false hope. He was talking about some kind of immunotherapy.
     
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    Not double talk at all. How is it double tall to be hopeful about medicine and say talk to your doctor about it? Yes people argue all the time. Not the president’s fault
     
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    When did a Dr ordered treatment become a red and blue issue. Some have had great success with this and some not much change, would it matter if it was you? Hell yea give it to me if my Dr says it's ok because If I'm struggling I want anything possible that may solve this devil. To make it a partisan issue is beyond dumb and done by partisan hacks.
     
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    I saw that as well my question would have been based on what and how would we know if they healed? Look some have had great immediate success would they have gotten better immediately? I would take it in a heart beat and I beat you would too.
     
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    Hydroxychloroquine might work by suppressing the immune system. That is why it works for some other problems.

    Some people appear to get in trouble because their immune system overreacts. This might explain why it could help with some patients.

    Other people get in trouble because their immune system is already compromised. So giving it to those people could help kill them.

    This is why you listen to medical experts and not fringe economists like Navarro.
     
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    So when trump asks what could it hurt, the answer is it could kill people who still have a fighting chance. And if taken prophylactically, it could predispose people to severe infections by suppressing the immune system.
     
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    I would be under the care of a professional and take what was given me. I might be biased but I don't know anything about COVID but after chasing a sickness in my herd I know even less. I surely know how hard it is to treat an unknown.
     
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    That's what really gets me. He talks out of both sides of his mouth all day long and his true believers are apparently oblivious to it. I guess that's why they are called righties. The only hear what comes out of the right side of his mouth.
     
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    It seems you are holding the bar pretty high. Trump ain't a Doctor and he knows it. He tells you to do what they say. Do you think he wanted to shut down his pride and joy?
     
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    I get it. You are against anything that benefits America that doesn't fall into the category of "we are the world, we are the children." Don't be a useful idiot. Security first!
     
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    Forcing Americans to spend more money for an inferior product out of a misguided application and understanding of security is not beneficial to America.
     
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