Pfizer Executive Caught by Project Veritas

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  1. Cybred

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    Nope, by the way how do you explain the fact that polio has been around BEFORE vaccines and pesticides?
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    They don't meet any citeria of a "whistleblower".
     
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    No, I don't. I'm not a doctor.
    Yes, because they work
    And yet, you are blissfully misinformed!!
    Like I said.......bad doctors.
    So......he blowing the whistle on the work HE did on something that doesn't exist. You do realize that is what you're saying.
    No
    I'm sure there are. Proves nothing. You do know that not every doctor was top of the class.

    Me:Yeah, and the earth is flat.
    You:If you believe vaccines are 'safe & effective', then it wouldn't be much of a stretch for you to also believe the earth is flat.
    Your answer above clearly shows how you can't even understand even the simple things.
     
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    They're going public with information that their employers & govt agencies don't want publicized because they want to stop the harm/deaths caused by the covid vaccines. That makes them whistleblowers. Logic 101.

    So you have to be a doctor to know what's in a vaccine?? (Note: Most doctors don't even know what's in a vaccine, just as many don't know the potential side effects of a drug. They don't care or want to know because that would mean actually doing their job.)
    So you don't care what's in a vaccine? You just let them inject you on faith that it won't hurt you? I'm sure they'd love to have more customers like you.

    Dr. Malone is blowing the whistle on the dangerous covid vaccines, not on viruses (which he believes exist). So he's not contradicting himself. People frequently blow the whistle on their employers/companies or a product(s) they're involved with when they discover that their role may be contributing to deceptive practices leading to the harming of people and/or the environment. Logic 101.

    Do they have to be top of their class to be a well qualified, conscientious doctor or medical scientist?

    I don't think you understood my reply.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Since it's misinformation.....no, they are not.
    Knowing what's in a vaccine and how it works with the human body takes a doctor.
    Then you leap to "you don't care what's in a vaccine"..... a leap that has no basis in our conversation but, hey, you think it helps your cause, just throw it out there.
    But you don't so why do you believe him?
    You are
    Yes, but this is not one of those cases.
    Oh, stop with the Logic 101. You clearly didn't take the course.
    I never said they did. Why do you bring it up? I'm merely pointing out that just because someone got their doctorate, doesn't mean they are good at their job.
    I did. You're not that deep a thinker to misunderstand.
     
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    I like how you just throw that out there without a shred of evidence that this is misinformation. Judging by your short responses of denial & disbelief thus far, you have nothing to back up your claims.

    * Knowing what's in a vaccine doesn't take a doctor. It requires the simple act of reading.

    * How it 'works'? Umm...it doesn't 'work' because there's no 'virus' for it 'work' against. In fact it does nothing but cause injury & deaths.

    * If doctors & medical scientists knew what the vaccines do in the human body, and believed them to be safe, then explain to me why didn't they know the covid vaccines would cause such a widespread epidemic of injury & deaths.

    Just a small sampling of the millions afflicted with injury or death by the covid vax:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...does-not-exist.594344/page-12#post-1074046812

    If you don't take the time to do your own research about vaccines & vaccine ingredients and simply trust whatever your doctor and/or govt agencies tell you, then one can make the conclusion that you don't care about what's in the vaccines.

    We both strongly agree that the covid vaccines are extremely harmful & ineffective at preventing any kind of illness. One doesn't have to agree with everything another person believes to find some common ground.

    How am I contradicting myself?

    Yes it is one of those cases. They're speaking out against the very industry they love & work in—the medical industry—by sounding the alarm on the dangers of a product (vaccines) produced by this very same industry, as well as against the unnecessary mandates recommended by said industry.

    Then why did you state, "You do know that not every doctor was top of the class."? You were obviously making an attempt to discredit the entire organization with that line. Why? Because that's your only defense. That's why. You don't look at their claims with an open mind, but rather attack the messengers, believing this will magically make the facts go away.

    If being a 'deep thinker' means being gullible, then I'd rather not be a deep thinker.
     
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    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Do you always take statements out of context? Yes, you do.
    And what did your reading tell you is in them that is causing injury and death. Please, enlighten all of us. You won't because you don't know. You just throw things out there.
    I don't have to explain why that is happening because it isn't happening. You, on the other hand have to explain what is in them that is doing all this so called harm.
    completely false....but I think it's cute you quote yourself
    Please spare me your logic
    Congratulations, you're common ground is misinformation.
    Yeah, like the one that said they cause autism. False....just like this.
    Again, another leap of logic based on nothing.
    "An attempt to discredit the entire organization"....the organization that I trust and you don't. How does that make sense.
     
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    YOU:
    Knowing what's in a vaccine and how it works with the human body takes a doctor.

    ME:
    * Knowing what's in a vaccine doesn't take a doctor. It requires the simple act of reading.
    * How it 'works'? Umm...it doesn't 'work' because there's no 'virus' for it 'work' against. In fact it does nothing but cause injury & deaths.


    How is that taking your statement out of context?

    See further below.

    First try to think logically about what you're asking:

    The fact that these vaccines are doing great harm & causing deaths is indisputable. So the ability to accurately confirm which specific ingredient, or combination of ingredients, is causing these adverse events does not remove the fact that the vaccines are the cause of injury/death. And this has been observed & known for well over a century since the first vaccines were developed. As with all vaccines, there are dozens of ingredients in the covid vaccines. Additionally, each ingredient can produce a different reaction. Plus, everyone's biology/metabolic make-up is different. So it's a daunting task to determine with certainty which of the ingredients, or combination thereof, is causing the event. And to complicate matters even further, the covid vaccine makers may not be revealing the full list of ingredients.

    With that said, animal studies have demonstrated various potential adverse effects from the administration of single ingredients. So you should be able to see that post-vax reactions observed in people won't tell us which specific ingredient (or combination thereof) caused the person's reaction. It tells us only that something in the vaccine is the culprit. But which ingredient(s)? Of course it doesn't matter because (1) the vaccine is based on pseudoscience, and (2) they all contain ingredients poisonous to the body. Hence, they shouldn't be used—period!

    This is a problematic issue with medical drugs as well. There's no telling what kind of a reaction someone will have from a medical drug, let alone what its long-term effects will be. And often people use multiple drugs, and have different diets & lifestyles, which makes a determination of which drug, or a combination thereof, even more difficult. Medical science's ignorance of how the body processes drugs & other chemicals, let alone who will react to what, is vast. This is why medical drugs alone kill hundreds of thousands of people annually, why drugs are recalled, and why lawsuits against drug companies amount to billions of dollars paid out annually.

    * Dr. Stefan Scoglio discusses which ingredients in the covid vax he believes are the prime culprit in deaths/injury, and why.
    * Dr. Cowan & Dr. Scoglio speak further on these vaccines, dispelling some myths believed by both scientists & laypeople.
    * Dr. Trozzi talks about covid vaccine ingredients & how they cause harm.
    * Pathologist & toxicologist Dr. Ryan Cole's findings on this issue.
    * Live blood analysis of blood exposed to covid vaccines. More HERE.

    There are studies by Dr. [Resia] Pretorius out of South Africa that show that you can take the spike protein alone, without platelets in the plasma, and that spike protein alone causes the proteins in our blood to clump. That spike protein is thrombogenic; it causes clots, and it causes a lot of clots.- Dr. Ryan Cole

    They knew in advance all these harms. You can look back at years of mRNA trials and animals and the reason we haven’t done this on a large scale before is because they never worked. There were too many adverse effects over time to where it wasn’t safe enough to bring forward to humanity.
    - Dr. Ryan Cole

    See also further below (re. autism).

    <sigh> I did so simply to avoid repeating myself here. I guess no one else does that??

    You keep repeating that, yet you provide no evidentiary rebuttal.

    Keep in mind, Autism/ASD is just a fancy term for brain damage.

    A huge spike in autism rate has been observed in recent years: 1 in 150 children had been diagnosed with autism by age 8 in 2000 compared to 1 in 44 in 2018. Compare that to rates of autism estimated at 1 in 10,000 in the 1950s and 1960s, 1 in 5,000 in the 1970s and increasing to 1 in 300 in the 1990s. In 2008, 1 in 6 children suffered from either autism or some form of developmental problem.

    The adjuvants (particularly thimerosal/mercury & aluminum) used in vaccines are confirmed by studies to be harmful to the brain & nervous system.

    From - Non-linear dose-response of aluminium hydroxide adjuvant particles: Selective low dose neurotoxicity
    Aluminium (Al) oxyhydroxide (Alhydrogel®), the main adjuvant licensed for human and animal vaccines, consists of primary nanoparticles that spontaneously agglomerate. Concerns about its safety emerged following recognition of its unexpectedly long-lasting biopersistence within immune cells in some individuals, and reports of chronic fatigue syndrome, cognitive dysfunction, myalgia, dysautonomia and autoimmune/inflammatory features temporally linked to multiple Al-containing vaccine administrations. Mouse experiments have documented its capture and slow transportation by monocyte-lineage cells from the injected muscle to lymphoid organs and eventually the brain. [...] We conclude that Alhydrogel® injected at low dose in mouse muscle may selectively induce long-term Al cerebral accumulation and neurotoxic effects.
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    Vaccines are also notoriously 'contaminated'.

    From - New quality-control investigations on vaccines: micro- and nanocontamination
    The analyses carried out show that in all samples checked vaccines contain non biocompatible and bio-persistent foreign bodies which are not declared by the Producers, against which the body reacts in any case. [...] Forty-four vaccines from Italy and France were analyzed. The results show the presence of micro- and nanosized particulate matter composed of inorganic elements in vaccine samples which are not declared among the components; their presence is, for the time being, inexplicable. A considerable part of those particulate contaminants have already been reported in literature as non-biodegradable and non- biocompatible. The evidence collected is suggestive of some hypotheses correlated to diseases.

    It is a well-known fact in toxicology is that contaminants exert a mutual, synergic effect, and as the number of contaminants increases, the effects grow less and less predictable. The more so when some substances are unknown – they should not be present in any injectable medicament, let alone in vaccines – especially those injected into infants.

    ---------------------------------------------------

    * 160 Research Papers Supporting The Vaccine/Autism Link

    * 600 citations for autism & related medical conditions.

    * Free 737-page ebook download citing 1200 studies refuting vaccine-makers' claims on autism - The Truth Will Prevail
    It includes the "bombshell revelation that scientists at the CDC falsified data on the MMR trials to cover up an association between the MMR vaccine and autism." (p. 556). And, "A re-analysis of the same data that the lead scientist preserved after being ordered to destroy it, reveals the increased rates of autism shown in the original study before it was allegedly “altered." (p. 558).

    * Addressing Dr. Wakefield's published findings in the Lancet: Peer-Reviewed Reports Raise Various Vaccine Safety Issues. Vaccines/vaccine adjuvants behind autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome—called 'Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA).'
    Wakefield: We identified associated gastrointestinal disease and developmental regression in a group of previously normal children, which was generally associated in time with possible environmental triggers.. Onset of behavioural symptoms was associated, by the parents, with measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination in eight of the 12 children, with measles infection in one child, and otitis media in another.

    * Dr. John Campbell discusses vaccine-induced brain injury.

    * Here's an eye-opening one: Massive meta-analysis finds definitive link between autism spectrum disorder and gender dysphoria; “vaccines” were the catalysts that precipitated it all.

    Much much more to post, but I'd think you'd get the picture by now.

    When I said 'organization' I was speaking of the Global Covid Summit created by the 17,000+ whistleblowers, not the medical industry in general—although there are plenty of ways the medical industry itself has discredited itself, owing to the fact that the American medical system is itself the leading cause of death and injury in the US. Check out the iatrogenic death figures - approximately 1 million deaths due to medical treatment annually.
     
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    Because the bold statement is completely false. Period
    No, it's very disputable
    A total word salad that ends up meaning absolutely nothing.
    Everyone's biology/metabolic make up is the same. Are the slightly differernt from person to person, a little, but not enough to make your case.
    Apparently it's a dauting task to prove your case.
    FFS You are the Oprah of medicine....YOU get polio and YOU get polio. You have NO argument. All you are doing is double talk.
     
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    We're very similar biologically, and yet so dissimilar. Among other factors, our ethnic/ancestral backgrounds, genetic/familial predispositions, congenital development, unique metabolic needs, age, psychological make-up & past issues, stress levels, and location & lifestyle differences need to be accounted for.

    This is why there's such a large variation in people in terms of allergies, reactions to drugs/chemicals, personal preferences (for food, drinks, colors, fashion, sexual orientation, etc.), food/dietary tolerances (for sugar/carbs, alcohol, salt, hot spices, fat, meat vs plant foods, etc.), sensitivities to environmental conditions (eg, magnetic fields/disturbances, sunlight, atmospheric pressure, O2 levels, humidity, etc.), tolerance to different climates, and also psychology (eg, differences in personality, creativity, intelligence, temperament, etc.).

    Anyway, even if you remain stubborn and believe that viruses exist, the important take-away from our exchange is this: If you haven't already, and if you cherish your health, I would strongly advise against accepting any of the covid vaccines (and any future vaccines).
     
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    Indeed.

    Unvaxxed Amish COVID death rates 90 times lower than the rest of the country.

    'Amish families did not get vaccinated or wear masks, nor did they engage in lockdowns, social distancing, or any other type of restrictions.'

    'But the separated communities didn’t avoid catching the virus, however, as roughly 90% of the Amish have been infected with Covid.'
     
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    and which nations have done so? how many "jab related deaths" are there? a few maybe, but compare to the millions from the disease.
     
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    Fake news. He's one of the nation's top investigative reporters.

    And he just won a very important court case.

    Ban On Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US Court Rules
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    'Oregon does not have a compelling interest in protecting people’s privacy in public places...'
     
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