Philando Castile may have been pulled over for his nose...

[video=youtube;WVKoVStBDcQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVKoVStBDcQ[/video]

 

You also missed out that he also said "The two occupants just look like people that were involved in a robbery". Perhaps someone should point out that the robbery suspects were two men, and I'm quite sure that the other occupant in the car was a woman.

From looking at both sides, I can see that mistaken identity of one of the suspects could be made and if the victim did have a gun in his lap could give rise to fear in the policeman given that he believed that the gun could have been the one used in the robbery. So I don't fully blame that policeman for what he did as we don't have the full story and doubt we ever will..

 

That and a "viewer" sent the audio who knows if it was tampered with.

 

I don't overlook that. Instead, I pay extra attention to his specificity... i.e. “The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide-set nose”.

Understanding fear and excusing action are two different things.

 

You dont know if the tape is legit yet and yet you are debating it as if it was.

 

this was racist profiling by police rather than racial profiling which has benefits, since they used big nose as the reason to find a criminal.

there is no reason anyone would use big nose as an identifying feature of a black person without knowing that is racist.

 

The thread title says "may", and it is a discussion forum. Relax.

 

Then why state

I don't overlook that. Instead, I pay extra attention to his specificity... i.e. “The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide-set nose”.

Eh?

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Hot damn i didnt know i was Black!

 

In a previous thread I also pointed that out, quote (Clearly that policeman who stated "just ‘cause of the wide set nose" thinks all blacks have wide noses. ie no other reason. That policeman must be the first person ever to identify someone driving by (at speed?) from his nose (amazing eye sight) )

True, but it does depend on what was said and how they were said

 

So, if you don't have all the facts,many are you running off at the mouth?
Oh wait, you're just speculating like every other armchair CSI Forensic Perry Mason Detective.

 

not many whites have big noses in the same proportion as blacks due to genetic differences.

 

Ahh so not quite what you said... Keep changing the story

 

"Wide set nose" could be code for black. I've heard other terms used, such as Canadians.

I've listened and read much commentary, and most of it avoids the real truth about the relationship between black people and cops.

First, from Webster's:
Full Definition of racism
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

Next, are some cops racist? Yes, and it's a stupid question, because it's one in which everyone already knows the answer.

Next, how do we eliminate racism within agencies? It's not a question of if. It's a question of how. Here's what to expect.

The federal government will provide grants to local and state agencies. The civil rights division of DOJ will significantly grow, creating a new bureaucracy, which will oversee a grand new scheme created by far left think tanks, civil rights groups, unions, etc., who will naturally reap huge financial benefits because they wrote the new rules and created the opportunity for themselves to sue anyone and everyone under these new rules, which were likely never authorized by Congress, i.e. the EPA. Only this is much better than EPA. AT least with EPA the judge, jury and executioner (the EPA) still has to use real evidence against you.

Real evidence in police agencies will be found mostly in racist Internet funnies sent between a few officers, who will lose their careers and pensions. Some agencies may be using terms like "wide set nose" or 'Canadians" that the DOJ will find. It will be enough for the army of DOJ investigators and lawyers to direct local agencies to participate in DOJ-lead education. Remember the civil rights groups that helped create the rules. They're back again. They also will receive grants to facilitate training on behalf of DOJ. The civil rights lawyers will ensure compliance. In other words, they'll sue when the DOJ won't sue.

This is the answer. It's the only answer. I don't agree with it, but it will be the answer.

Now consider the end result, say 20 years from now. Are there still racist cops? How many of them kill black people per year? Is it more or less than in 2016?

The answer will be no, there are no less blacks being killed by cops, and here is why. But the actual facts won't matter, as they don't now, e.g. more white people (percentages factored) are killed by cops now. The media will help the bureaucrats fudge the numbers, and like "hands up, don't shoot" facts won't matter anyway.

You've created a monster. The monster needs to eat. The monster never stops growing, therefore it needs to eat more next year than it ate this year. The monster doesn't care about black people nor social justice. It cares about eating. Bureaucracy is an unintended consequence of liberal policies. Some liberals don't care, but others still care about runaway litigation and perpetual division.

 

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He was pulled over for being black. His record shows he has been pulled over for minor infractions something like 50 times in the last few years. We are talking about a systemic shakedown by the cops that police that area. This is not rocket science folks.

 

There are police agencies near me that set speed traps along the highways. They're making mad cash. They stop very few black people. They don't care who they stop. They want revenue. It's no different in black areas. The cities want revenue, and cops writing tickets is the easiest way to get it.

 

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You admit he was pulled over for infractions and then claim its because he is black... Consistent thought... use it.

 

Because it's a discussion forum.

Calm down and realize that in a setting like this, there are countless instances of theories being discussed based on portions of information. The thread title says "may" and doesn't claim any absolutes, yet it's still available to discuss. If that makes you uncomfortable.....

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Nice snipping my post to take it out of context... If the information is not verified why do you insist something is "specific" you are trying to have it both ways and failing miserably....

 

Jeronimo Yanez lawyer confirmed yesterday that the reason his client stopped the car was because he thought he matched an image of a robbery suspect.

Also, the lawyer is suggesting that Mr. Castile would be alive were it not for the presence of a gun. I'm wondering where the NRA has to say about that.

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See above.

 

Does anyone who can fog a mirror seriously think that a white guy would've been stopped in the first place, much less a lawful gun carrying white citizen with a clean record with his white girlfriend next to him gunned down?
And IF it had happened all the usual pro-gun nuts here would be blamin' the permit carrying white gun owner ? Yeah sure. Funny about how that always seems to work out. Or not.

 

Well to be fair, I wouldn't expect a white guy to get pulled over in this instance if he was stopped for being a robbery suspect.

Won't argue there.

 

Police shakedowns are pretty common regardless of where you but lets face it, how many people in Beverly Hills get pulled over that many times? Or Gross Pointe? How about La Jolla?

 

pulled over in part because he resembled a robbery suspect

In part...

Do you even read what you quote?

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"White people" are pulled over all the time... I dont see what the issue is...

Oh right you want to post/rant about "gun nuts" and not the topic.. Shocking!

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So Rich people get pulled over less? You dont say! Seems race wouldnt be an issue then money and influence is.

 

Yes. The other part is what Mr. Castile was told, which is a broken tail light. Unless you're claiming the officer lied?