Phoney quotes from "the Founders"

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    Naturally phoney or edited quotes from the Founders are quite popular....one of the more common is the "A republic won't last once the peiople learn they can vote themselves money" "quote".....often attributed to Ben Franklin, occasionally Jefferson.

    Naturally there is no first hand proof that either man said that....typically, if the quoter presents a link, it's to some libertarian or rightwing website or writer who they themselves can provide no link to an original writing of the person they are "quoting".

    And of course the idea behind that quote and others is...to create the impression that the Founders were "just like modern conservatives" and modern conservatives are "just like the Founders".

    And other quotes (actual ones) that dispute that are eschewed....such as Thomas Jefferson's support for public education (anathema to the "school choice" or libertarian anti-public school Right).....and Jefferson commenting favorably on the idea of a "progressive taxation" on landowners. (again anathema to the anti-progressive tax folks, Flat Taxers, etc.)


    BTW, I fully support scrutiny and correction of MY signature quote by anybody who can prove that Reagan didn't say it in his debate with Mondale.
     
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