Piece of landing gear from 9/11 found in Manhattan

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  1. dman

    dman New Member

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    and 12 years after the fact they just happen to match one of the planes that went into a tower.

    my my what a lucky coincidence!
     
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    More nails in the coffin for insane no planers
     
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    more nails in the coffin of insane planers.

    over 10 years and no one saw it, only a loony tune total sucker can believe that one.
     
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    obviously you don't spend much time in that part of Manhattan...so if you are suggesting it was planted, tell me how. Please...
     
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    are you suggesting it is not possible to plant it? tell me how please. whats your theory?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when New York builds building, they do not leave a bit of space unused, wow, those buildings are close together
     
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    yep and it aint wedged either LOL
     
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    no I don't think it was planted, I think when the buildings fell this part of the plane fell between the building.
     
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    oh yeh and without disturbing the dust on the walls LMAO
     
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    There are all sorts of things odd about the object. It is unmistakeably and aircraft part.

    Whether it got there, specificly, on 9/11 is not so clear. There is speculation that it was lowered into place on a rope, which remains in place.

    The only reason I can think of for anyone to do that would be to sabotage the mosque project.
     

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    I think the more likely situation is that it was blown through the outside of the building upon impact. UA175 (which I strongly suspect this part belongs to) hit the South Tower with so much force much of it blew out the opposite side. The most famous part is one of the engines which landed on the street below. I would think it is likely this part also blew out at the same time.
     
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    There were several small objects seen racing out beyond the fire ball, one of the trailing incandescent material of some sort (most likely the engine.) I believe there was also a wheel found in the same area as the engine.

    If it got there by itself, yes, it clearly would have been by the course you describe.

    The only thing about it that bothers me the least is the rope, if it has been confirmed to be a rope, and not one of the elevator cables severed in the crash.
     
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    hmm stop that!

    its one of the first reasonable posts I have ever seen you make.
     
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    yeh that means they would have at least found one of them. we all know how they just disintegrate on impact. LMAO
     
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    Boeing airliners use hydraulics control actuators, so I do not see why there would be cable of any sort included with the component. It appears to be a rope in the pictures, but it's not exactly 'wrapped' around it. I think the likely explanation is that it was put like that after they discovered it. Who knows, maybe that was the rope they were using to remove it and they figured they better let the media snap a picture of it before they removed it from the setting.. there are a whole raft of possibilities.
     
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    oh yeh

    surely after destroying the black boxes and evidence no one would do anything so dastardly as lower the piece in there.
     
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    That depends on how fast they are going and what they run into. Balls-out into a brick wall, they are likely to shatter and scatter. Punching through a light wall (comparatively, like the WTC, one might holds together. One engine at Shanksville hit soft ground and came to a gentle stop, losing mostly roto vanes. The one that snapped off apparently bounced a few times and broke up. There is some element of randomness about every aircraft crash. Everything can perform normally up until WHAM! then go all to pieces. They were, as you might know, designed to ease themselves down onto terrain rather than to plow into it.
     
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    It would be absurd to expect a rigid object like the black boxes to survive the collapse. Because they are located at the rear of the aircraft, in the part of the fuselage most likely to fall off in a crash, they can be expected not to pass through the building. Colliding and sliding floor slabs would shred them nicely.

    They are not indestructible. There is even a limit to how much heat they can withstand for a given length of time.
     
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    Just having a look. According to this map;

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    and this image;

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    It seems on 9/11 a piece of UA175's undercarriage landing pretty dam near the discovery of the one today;

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    (google street view taken at location I believe UA175's wheel was found, looking down the street towards 51 Park Place, where the new undercarriage component was discovered)

    I could be off, but seems fair enough to say the part discovered likely belongs to UA175.
     
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    The block of buildings to the right of where the landing gear was found looks like rather narrow older buildings, pretty much within the predictable spread.
     
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    now thats (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hilarious!

    a tire in one piece! What a fools play.

    Those big ole assemblies that can magically get through a 22" wide opening, yeh right!

    Hey theres no hole! LMAO


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    I know it went down the elevator and walked out the front door!
     
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    It appears that somme of the perimeter columns are bent slightly outward. A landing gear is not much wider than a window. Not a big mystery at all.
     
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    yeh but ya had all that other chit come out too and they show a HOLE, there is not hole OOOOOPPPPPSSSSIIIIEEEEE!!!!

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    Hog wash. You just don't see it because you expect there to be a hole the size of the aircraft, which would be absurd to expect.
     

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