Pilot says planes couldn't have been flown the way they were flown

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    This pilot seems to know what he's talking about. He says that a 757 didn't hit the Pentagon.

    Pilot Who Flew The Airplanes That Crashed on 9/11 Speaks Out!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXA-enq65ng


    Here's some info I posted a while back on the Pentagon.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=405804&p=1064937346#post1064937346


    All of the pieces fit together.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=348380&p=1063729867#post1063729867

    Here are some links I wish I'd put in the above post.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=lithium
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/search?q=iraq+oi


    9/11 was obviously an inside job.
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Couldn't you just post a few paragraphs with the "5 W's" (Who, What, When, Why and Where) to convince us if it's worth our time to watch these You tube videos ?

    The problem with today's commercial pilots is they don't fly the planes, a computer flies the planes. Unless they are a former military fighter jock they have little knowledge of what an aircraft is capable of.
     
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    So, he has delusions that conflict with reality? So what?
     
  4. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I fear you need to get a life. Conspiracy theories are not healthy.
     
  7. Eleuthera

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    There is no doubt in my mind the Pentagon was not struck by flight 77. Something may have struck it, but not flight 77, not an airliner.

    The few frames provided by the Pentagon from the parking lot camera show something much smaller than a 757.

    If any of the outward-looking cameras at the building showed 77 on its approach, it is a sure bet that the Pentagon would have provided that footage. Clearly there is no such footage.

    Any honest 757 pilot that analyzes the maneuver supposedly flown there will say the same thing--no way some lousy Cessna pilot is going to do that, if it could be done at all in a big airplane like that.
     
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    Except for the airliner parts retrieved, you might have something.
     
  9. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    That is part of the problem--the "airliner parts removed" were immediately hidden away from public view, rather like the 28 pages from the 911 Commission report.

    So one must ask why they were hidden? If those parts would sustain the official story, they would be released for public examination. They were not, and there is a reason for that.

    Further, the only parts shown to the public were not consistent with what one would expect to see from a crashed 757 airliner.

    If they have a solid story, if they have nothing to hide, why then are they hiding so much?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, personal testimony and pictures are not acceptable. You have proof other than the evidence then present it. Not hypothesis but proof.
     
  11. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm afraid there is no proof that 77 struck the building. You cannot provide the proof and neither can the Pentagon.

    Unless you happen to have some actual proof, something besides government and media claims?
     
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    a commercial jet hit the Pentagon.
     
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    Pray tell then,what proof WOULD you accept?
     
  14. Hoosier8

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    Why are you afraid? BTW, I know that pictures and eye witness is not enough for any conspiracy theorist, they had to be on the plane to believe it.
     
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    Incorrect.

    We can, but you have given yourself a way out in the following:

    Nice, therefore no-one can disprove your claim because YOU won't accept the sources. That's quite convenient for you don't you think?
     
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    Odd that quite a few witnesses of the second plane to hit the twin towers said it looked like a military plane, no markings, no windows on the sides. This was right after it happened, so there was no time to devise conspiracy theories, people were just telling what they saw.

    But for some reason, it is not hard for some people to believe that these inexperienced pilots, who trained in cessnas, could maneuver these large aircraft as well as they did, to not only hit the twin towers but also to take a path to the pentagon that was difficult to pull off by these pilots who had very little training.

    Then you have buildings that fell that looked like planned demolitions, with 10 percent of the first building causing the rest of it to come down, turning to dust. There are many weird things that happened on that fateful day, but people will just discount them, for perhaps we just do not want to believe that this was a real conspiracy.

    Yet other insane things have happened in the last 30 years, like gutting America of her industry,devastating her middle class, by shipping American jobs to cheap labor, deregulating banks that created too big to fail, allowing in millions of illegals and legals that also hurt this nation of working people by taking away jobs and depressing wages, hollowing out America, and this is accepted to, as not being a conspiracy, created by our rich elites and the republican party, their party. And then the democratic party with Clinton joined in with the elite driven Neoliberalism.

    This change is not something any president before Reagan would have ever allowed, for we helped a communist nation to rise, to become a more powerful enemy, financed by American consumer dollars. As we destroyed the very manufacturing base that made American powerful and prosperous.

    Conspiracies are real, but when the American people are too dumbed down to recognize them, then they become nutter conspiracy theories.

    The Princeston Study laid out the irrefutable evidence that the elite special interests have gotten the policy that wanted for the last 30 years, and still that isn't enough to convince dumbed down americans that we live not in a republic, but an oligarchy. And that too becomes a nutter conspiracy theory.

    People know what to think these days, but they no longer know how to think. And when that happens, you can do anything to these people that you want to do, for all you have to do is call it a conspiracy theory and that will do it. But remember that term was coined by the CIA once upon a time. As a part of controlling people by misinformation.

    But sooner or later surely people will look at the mess, and say, how in the hell did we ever get here? Then, perhaps they will learn once again how to think, instead of accepting what is being fed to them, the propaganda.
     
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    Catch up, past the molly-club theories, about UFOs, when it was big, ol' JET AIRLINERS, ok?

    GW stepped on all the ongoing FBI investigations, doinked sister Condi, and took that August 6, 2001 56th Hiroshima anniversary CIA report down, to see fellow seditious conspirator and B-C RICO honcho and bro-dude, Jeb Bush, then seditious governor, of seditious Florida BECAUSE BOTH KILLER PUNKS KNEW THAT CRASH IN PENNSYLVANIA WAS HEADED FOR 1600, okie-dokie, hokie-pokey? Does kidding help you sort this?

    Their criminal RICO is family-oriented, you see. And they evade review, by hella O.C. nepotism.:wall:
     
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    Name the 'witnesses'...
    And the pilots had trained in boeing simulators,so it's not like their experience was just with cessnas
     
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    No concrete evidence exists for the official story. Forensic evidence such as part numbers of the specific airliners that allegedly crashed that day have not been produced. Also, there are NO photos or video tapes of any passengers boarding any of the flights in question. That is a giant red flag as far as I am concerned. The biggest crime ever committed on US soil and no video evidence of the alleged terrorists boarding any of the supposed weapons, in the year 2001? Bull! I am not sure exactly what happened that day, but I am absolutely certain that the story we have been fed is a bunch of unsubstantiated crap.
     
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    Why exactly do you NEED all of that 'evidence'









    / and there are videos of people picking up parts off the pentagon lawn with Boeing part numbers on them,As well as substantial wreckage inside of the jet.

    Trump card,however is the recovery of the CVR and FDR 'black boxes'
     
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    It depends upon what proof might be offered. A good start might be the videotapes from the location, something besides the parking lot camera, although it is proof enough that no 757 hit the building.

    Better proof would have been walls that looked like they were hit by a big airplane right after the supposed impact instead of collapsing half an hour later.

    Better proof would have been debris consistent with a 757, such as landing gear and engine assemblies. Better proof might be some serial numbers from any of the many components that would have been present had it actually been AA77.

    - - - Updated - - -

    If you can prove AA77 hit the building, please do so.
     
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    You aren't a pilot, are you?
     
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    Argument from incredulity.......fact is,there WAS that sort of wreckage found

    As far as the videos go,we've seen a few released that don't really show anything clearly

    And the Walls were over 186 inches of limestone ,masonry and concrete,recently stiffened with kevlar....how should the 'hole' have looked?
     

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