Please EDUCATE yourself FIRST on how "viruses" are allegedly detected!

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  1. Durandal

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    An interesting accusation. How many moon kooks have been censored? How?
     
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    Nice deflection from a multi-jabbed Covidian kook...:roflol:
     
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    ^ Not a good deflection at all. You've made the claim, now you can back it up.
     
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    I don't owe you anything and don't have to back it up.

    But put down the Big Macs and perhaps you can refresh yourself on the "Online Censorship" where the ACLU had filed multiple lawsuits against at least 13 states have passed online censorship legislation since 1995.

    Those were plenty of cases in which the ACLU has struck down in which many state censorship laws violated the First Amendment.
     
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    OK, so you were making **** up as always.
     
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    Are you saying that you were bleating about censorship entirely unrelated to moon kooks and their claims?
     
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    New York
    Assembly Bill 5395, sponsor Assembly Member Mazzarelli. Criminalizes engaging in sexually explicit conversation with minors over the Internet.


    Does that bother you?
     
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    That's what you said?

    I never entertained "censorship" and people who have actually PROVEN the Moon landing HOAX.

    So quote me?
     
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    Wait. Which moon landing are you talking about and how it was it "PROVEN" to be a "HOAX"?
     
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    Woahhh.....just what are you implying?

    Are you labeling me as promoter of engaging in sexually explicit conversation with minors over the Internet?

    You better be careful Durandal since I have made no such claim. My claims were that "Government" censorship exists, period!
     
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    You cited it as an example of big, bag gubmint censorship.
     
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    No!

    I provided you a link to where "Government" censorship exits. And the ACLU victories in the courts against it.

    I made absolutely no claims to the merits of the promotion of engaging in sexually explicit conversation with minors over the Internet. Or the advocation of such activity.

    You did.

    And you should apologize immediately
     
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    Apologize for what? I just asked a question. Does that "censorship" bother you?
     
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    You forgot to mention wise.

    Tell me what type of people have these traits in their character.

    Open minded
    Insatiable curiosity
    Wants to learn many things
    Always thinks outside the box
    A sense of humour
    Highly adaptable
    They understand how much they don't know
    They read a lot
    They like their own company
    They have high self-control
    They appreciate dark humour.

    Got any clues, Einstein?
     
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    I'm not the one who advocates for the "censoring" of free speech, that I don't agree with, am I now.

    You on the other hand, not so much!
     
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    Instead of collecting stamps, he collects propaganda brochures.:roflol:
     
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    So you prefer censorship?
    Most certainly.

    In the following 2-hour video, Poornima Wagh provides details of her background. She is interviewed by Dr. Lee Merritt, an orthopedic/spine surgeon. One will see that Wagh really knows her science and her way around the biology lab (which she says is becoming a lost but critical practice, rapidly being displaced by computers). And Dr. Merritt makes a great interviewer because of her medical expertise & scientific curiosity. Wagh states that she initially wanted to pursue a different course in life than what her family members traditionally pursued. Later she ended up conducting lab research after being hired by Dr. Judy Meyer of Santa Barbara City College. Much later in life she completed her PhD in 2016 at London College of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Her thesis was in "malaria co-infection with HIV" in which she questions the official narrative of both malaria and HIV. You will also want to note Wagh's discussion of the ~2300 Covid vaccines she and her associates around the world analyzed. She states that ALL the vaccines are the same, with only varying ratios of the same ingredients. The primary ingredients they found are: a hydrogel platform with reduced graphene oxide, a synthetic lipid nano-particle (SM-102), polyethylene glycol (PEG), and massive amounts of heavy metals (particularly aluminum). Absolutely no mRNA, DNA, viral vectors, or spike proteins were detected. In short, the vaccines are nothing short of chemical weapons, not bio-weapons.
    https://alive528.com/v/16250

    The following site lists some of Wagh's educational background in the US. Her stint at the London College of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine isn't shown, probably because it's in the UK. So you'll have to contact the UK college to confirm her past enrollment & PhD studies there.
    https://radaris.com/~Poornima-Wagh/1634664760

    In summary, from another site:

    * BSc. Finance (December 1995): Salisbury University, Salisbury, Maryland, USA
    * MBA Finance and Economics (May 2000): University of Alaska Fairbanks, USA
    * Lab Technician and Clinical Lab Scientist (2005-2011): Santa Barbara City College and University of California Santa Barbara, California, USA, Microbiology Lab, University of Texas, Austin, USA (2016-2019), Molecular Biology Lab
    * 2 PhD's, Virology and Immunology respectively (December 2016): London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM), London, England, UK
     
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    What we see is a soup of cellular debris from dead/destroyed tissue as a result of antibiotics, antimycotics and other toxins the tissue sample was exposed to. The arrows point to what is likely exosomes exuded from destroyed cellular tissue (probably vero cells from monkey kidney tissue) which have the same shape, size, and appearance as so-called viruses (NOTE: exosomes also contain genetic material, enzymes, and other substances). You will also notice that the pic doesn't show an isolated or purified sample of the virus, but a chaotic soup of cellular debris, genetic material, proteins, perhaps some bacterial debris, and who knows what else. Taking a picture of what looks like typical cellular debris tells us nothing about an alleged infectious agent --- especially if everything in the image is dead.

    NOTE: Anything seen under an electron microscope is always dead anyway, but how the sample is treated in the lab prior to electron microscopy will determine how it appears.
     
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    One might call them "exosomes", but they look like and behave exactly like Corona Viruses, including the way to reproduce.

    You may not seem to know that viruses are not defined as life forms, like bacteria are. :)
     
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    My antivirus blocks the link ...
    This is a conspiracy!
     
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    So why call them "viruses" when for decades we've known them as harmless intracellular organelles called exosomes?

    I'll tell you why: Fear = acceptance of vaccines, medical drugs & medical supply purchases = profits + more sickness + mass control.

    In this day and age, ignorance is NOT bliss.
    Obviously I was referring to cells & bacteria in the micrograph, not the so-called "viruses". If everything is dead then there's no biological activity, and hence no way to observe the processes in terms of the alleged replication of intracellular viruses from extracellular virions.

    Have you even asked yourself why viruses always need to be "cultured"? Why aren't "infectious virions" ever observed in plasma and interstitial fluids, then isolated and purified for examination? If a person is sick from a virus, then their fluids should be saturated with virions. Why has no virion ever been dissected and its full genetic sequence analyzed? Why is the alleged genetic sequence of a virus only a partial sequence, extracted from a computer data base of millions of human genetic sequences, and arbitrarily spliced with other sequences using a computer? Why is there no real lab work conducted other than to "culture" and then take photos? Why have scientists failed to even satisfy Koch's FIRST postulate?

    I'll tell you why there is always a "culture": Exosomes are typically exuded from dead/dying/injured/poisoned cellular tissue, and it is photos of these exosomes that are needed to convince the public that viruses exist. Yet, absolutely no evidence that they are infectious in any way is provided. The same is true for bacteriophages. Phages cannot be produced unless the bacteria is under great stress (eg, poisoned with antibiotics, starved, removed from its optimal environment, etc.).

    Nevertheless, this is all a moot point because there are no viruses to speak of.
     
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    I believe this 2-hour video is a better interview because the interviewer, an M.D., is better equipped to understand & ask very technical questions of Poornima Wagh.
    https://alive528.com/v/16250
     
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    I should again bring up the following conclusion by James Hildreth of Johns Hopkins regarding HIV & the endosomal structure, the exosome:

    When is a virus an exosome?
    A bold new theory suggests that retroviruses have hijacked an intercellular communication system for both their biogenesis and spread. The concept, outlined by Stephen Gould, Amy Booth, and James Hildreth (Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD) has implications for HIV treatment and immunization strategies, and may explain why tissue rejection occurs in humans.

    Hildreth was looking at human proteins that HIV acquires during its biogenesis, and noticed that lysosomal proteins were in the mix. This ties in with recent findings in this and other journals that HIV is packaged in late endosomes (for review see Amara and Littman, 2003).

    In uninfected cells, this endosomal compartment invaginates to form small, internal vesicles. The bag of vesicles, or multivesicular body, can fuse with the plasma membrane to disgorge these vesicles, named exosomes, which then travel to other cells to transmit messages. In the immune system, exosomes transfer peptide-laden MHC proteins to noninfected cells, and also act as miniature versions of antigen-presenting cells.

    Hildreth now proposes that “the virus is fully an exosome in every sense of the word.” Others have found that HIV particles contain MHC, but by the exosome hypothesis they may also contain proteins that exosomes use to fuse with target cells and to avoid attack by complement. As Gould points out, an exosome makes a perfect vector for HIV, because an exosome “is not just proteins in a vesicle, it's something that is meant to traffic.”

    The idea may explain how HIV both infects cells that lack receptors for its surface gp120 protein, and avoids robust, virus-directed immune responses. “Even if one completely blocks the gp120-related pathway of entry, HIV will have this second, albeit less efficient, means of getting into cells,” says Hildreth. [SOURCE]


    As you can see, mainstream scientists still cannot fathom the idea that the alleged "virus" they've been observing all along was always an exosome or some other endosomal structure. Hildreth still clings to the virus myth despite his findings, which makes his statement regarding HIV & exosomes even more revealing.
     
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