Please explain how you can vote for Trump. Can you admit the real reason?

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  1. Joe knows

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    Trumps tax cuts was all about GDP and profits. One of the few good things he done
     
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    Unless he takes away more rights. I’m sitting this one out. No one is good.

    why can’t we get a Rand Paul?
     
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    His justices and judicial appointments were far better than Obama/Biden's where race, gender and sexual preferences were the main factors
     
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    what rights did Trump take away? Compare that to what Biden would try to take away?
     
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    At least when a democrat try’s the republicans fight for our rights. When a republican does it they all fold like a prostitute begging for money.
     
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    It's pretty funny how you managed to take it and twist it into some sort of race card.

    I hate the progressive agenda and everything that represents to destroy the traditional America we have all known to grow and love.

    You can try to confuse that as people but what you can't do is change the way I feel even though you can misrepresent it.


    Elected Democrats will be the death of this nation
     
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    What is "traditional America"? It seems everyone you ask will have a different opinion on this, and most of it is more an individual's nostalgia than anything that was ever real.
    I think America has always been great, but its greatest days are ahead, and has nothing to do with its past. It has more to do with the evolution of the human spirit.
     
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    are you still going on about the bump stocks and what do you think a president Clinton would have done> BTW IIRC a Trump appointed judge has put that ruling in jeopardy
     
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    But…. If you really want this list

    1- diminished gun rights with bump stock confiscation order and wants to look into banning silencers
    2- with the same confiscation order he took away property with no payment violating the 5th amendment as well
    3- he again attacked the 5th amendment and 2nd when he suggested take guns first and due process second.
    4- he became quite the dictator although I realize he was the lesser of Biden but still dictated plenty with COVID. He forced renters to allow tenants to stay rent free with government reimbursement. My job was one the government never suggested to shut down so this burden fell on the few bastards still working paying for their free ride. Essentially turned me into a slave by deeming me an essential worker for the scared and pathetic portion of the nation.
    5- did I mention gun rights already? Can I use that as #6,7, and 8 as well?
     
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    President Clinton passed the Brady act. Do you know who the Brady bill was named after? Do you know who originally drafted it? Thank god bush jr let it laps
     
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    Yeah, yeah, and the Democrats say the same thing about the Republicans. Kinda sick of both parties. It isn't like either of these two parties has made America better over the last fifty years.
     
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    I think what I like about him is less anything that he did, and more the way he wrecked the status quo, setting in motion a chain of events that have shined the spotlight on just how corrupt the US government has become. Not that he is any less corrupt than what he is wrecking. But now, through his antics, people are realizing just how ridiculous the whole structure has become. There is no hiding it any longer.
     
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    I would think people would have more of a problem with a Biden vs Trump rematch. One will destroy us domestically with his pettiness and a need for retribution and the other with foreign wars and ego.
     
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    Well, looks like he will be the other choice, so you will vote for him no matter what, and no matter who runs against him.

    They are not "realizing" anything, they are being told the American system, the institutions, even the Constitution (yes, he said that), and our allies, are corrupt and evil and needs to be wrecked and replaced. People like the idea or wrecking it, because they bought the lie about US being corrupt and evil. People create enemies when one doesn't already exist.

    This is exactly why our enemies love the idea of seeing Trump in the White House. He is the instrument of self destruction.
     
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    what happened was that the ATF-using the unconstitutional FDR created law, redefined bump stocks. Yes, Trump pushed that just you know Hillary would have done but a Trump judge has dealt that ruling a serious blow

    See above

    repeat of the above two

    you want to compare what Trump did to a perfect world vs what the real alternative is

    you seem to think that a democrat would have been better
     
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    Biden or Trump-who do you vote for? or are you going to abdicate and not vote?
     
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    What has Biden banned in his past 4 years? Did he force people to destroy or turn in anything gun related?

    and none of your answers that say “see the above” is a response. No time in American history any president forced destruction or confiscation of a gun related item or gun. The door he opened for gun control was unprecedented to the full meaning of the term. And none of what you said addressed that fact along with the fact it was taking property rights without due process or reimbursement. Not only banning but essentially robing from fellow gun owners of their private property. And here you are defending this because of the party he running for.

    I wish we had more real people who actually gave a crap about gun rights
     
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    I already told you. I will not vote for an idiot who is hell bent on dividing the nation, and I will not vote for Biden. If its only them, I will write in Haley, and vote on local issues.

    I also told you that I expect Biden to drop out, so its a moot point.

    Less than 20% of Americans are 'progressive' and you are pulling for Trump just because they vote against Trump......?
     
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    well I guess if Biden drops out then I should ask you who you will vote for

    if its Kamala?
     
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    I told you that too: Manchin.
     
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    Manchin would be a better choice than either OTHER than the fact that I suspect his judicial picks would be anti gun
     
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    you confuse the brady act (background checks with a waiting period : the waiting period sunset when the instant check was brought on line) w the Omnibus crime bill that contained the gun ban that sunset
     
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    OK you have two choices on the ballot--one who has a track record of appointing pro gun judges and the other who actively recruits anti gun judges,, who do you vote for?
     
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    It's an easy answer for me.

    His Supreme Court nominations are on the verge of overturning Chevron. All the rest of his amazing accomplishments will flow from that.

    Oh, and no new wars. My wife's a Fed and she was in Bagram when the C-RAMs stopped firing. It was breath taking. Such a shame Biden then had to go and screw it up.

    Oh, and a good economy with low inflation. Not like the current 17% inflation under Creepy Joe.

    That's it for now. Maybe I'll have some more after lunch.
     
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