Please explain Impeachment in a 15 second ad to the American People

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    The purpose of impeachment is to get to the Truth so the American Voter has the best information possible to select the best candidate, most suited to working toward the very purpose of our government, to more perfectly secure our Freedom and Liberty and is a guy who sold his office the best choice? Especially when he screwed up the economy so bad?

    More and more the reply of the American People is NO to Bribed Joe.

    Trump (R) 48, Biden (D) 46

    Biden 44, Ramaswamy 45

    Haley 45, Biden 43

    Biden 43, Pence 44

    But, that's the purpose of the impeachment inquiry, to get to the truth.
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Well that's the advantage of double standards, you have twice as many standards as other folks.
     
  3. Joe knows

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    Trumps impeachment started at him being elected. There were democrats who ran elections on impeaching Trump long before articles of impeachment were even filed. Trumps impeachment was political and proven to be so by the simple fact that democrats ran on it in the mid term elections.

    Biden impeachment was never a battle cry during midterm elections campaigns of republicans. I think that says something
     
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    Democrats started their process against Trump after ONE Congressional hearing. They didn't take months collecting evidence like Republicans have done.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point. If one lies whether they are under oath or not is not congruent to the reasons behind it. A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    that is what the house voted on and was in the Mueller Report to say the least. Next
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Except you are using the impeachment inquiry as an effort to reelect trump, much the same way when you did this with Hilary Clinton and the 2016 Presidential Election. Old dog, same tricks.
     
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    YOu are forgetting the Mueller Report did much of the legwork. Try reading it sometime instead of listening to whoever you are listening to who are not being honest with you.
     
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    Those are all statistical ties with about 10% undecided if it is between the two. 10% can sway an election one way or the other.
     
  10. Zorro

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    @Alwayssa

    Impeachment Inquiry is about getting to the Truth for the American People. You seem to have a real aversion to the People knowing that Bribed Joe sold his office to foreign Oligarchs.

    The corrupt FBI/CIA rigged the election by lying about the laptop that details this international bribery scheme, and that vile attack on our Constitutional Liberal Democracy looks like it's going to be peacefully remedied by the American Voter.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't help wondering, since no damning information on Joe Biden has been revealed yet, if Kevin and the Crazies are actually hoping for something akin to the Benghazi hearings to occur. Taking an infraction of State Dept. protocols regarding private servers and blowing it completely out of proportion for the entertainment of the rubes.
     
  12. Zorro

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    Given the pro-GOP lean in the ECV, the result of majorities of Republicans in far more States, Bribed Joe through the assistance of the Corrupt FBI/CIA went into the election with 7.2 point polling lead and still barely won. A flip of just 44,000 votes and they would have failed to rig the election for Bribed Joe.

    If Bribed Joe goes into the election within the margin of error, he's going to lose the Electoral College Vote.

    Bribed Joe is 12 points BEHND where he was at this point in the 2020 cycle and he's 2.5 less popular than The Peace and Prosperity Low Inflation Stable Prices Rising Real Wages Trumpster.

    Bribed Joe is not on a path toward reelection, the Trumpster is.

    Never forget, the point of the Impeachment Inquiry is to get to the Truth for the American People about Bribed Joe. We deserve it!
     
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  13. Golem

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    There was nothing to "inquire" about before his call to Zelensky or before the big lie.

    I heard some democrats talk about impeachment before there was enough evidence to impeach. Never heard of an "impeachment inquiry" to find some MOTIVE to impeach, though. This was within weeks of Trump's inauguration. And the motives, though evidence was insufficient, WERE made public: improper attempt to influence the head of the FBI, and removing him when he didn't give in, showing highly classified secrets to Russians, influencing Chinese, Saudi... and other governments for his family profits... And others... NEVER was there a need to do an "impeachment inquiry" to FIND a cause. The businesses existed, he admitted showing the documents, Comey's firing and improper "meeting" were confirmed by his own staff... So evidence to support impeachment was insufficient to remove him in the Senate, but it DID exist. In the case of Biden, there isn't even an allegation... much less evidence. Like you and other have said: they doing an inquiry to fish for a motive. And they've been doing this for almost 5 years. No luck so far.

    But then you're saying that this impeachment is like what you describe. Just republicans who "run elections" on impeaching Biden but no actual acts or substance to stand on. I tend to agree with this
     
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    "During the Trump administration, the Democrats impeached Trump once for a bogus Democrat-manufactured "Russian collusion" claim, and once for a phone call asking for an investigation of corruption involving Joe Biden. Now it's Biden's turn to be impeached. This is the sad state of American politics in the 21st Century."
     
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    No they didn't!

    But here have it, folks! My point proven to the T. Right winger have NO arguments... so they have to make up crap like this nonsense!
     
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    The Republicans are doing a much better job. Much slower, much more methodical, with information bursts for the American People at a steady pace. It's far more important that they get this right than they do this fast.

    And the point is always, to get to the Truth for the American People.
    And the truth looks like it's also a solid election strategy.
     
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    The purpose of impeachment is to INFORM??? The founders would certainly take issue with that weird interpretation of the Constitution. But, if that is true... they have plenty of information for the next elections which will likely be between a candidate that has been successfully impeached TWICE, and a President seeking reelection who has been threatened with Impeachment but those who threaten him have been unable to come ... even with a MOTIVE to impeach him FOR.
     
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    Well, asking for an investigation in to the Biden's in order to hurt Joe's electoral prospects would be enough of an abuse of power. But it was coupled with extorting Zelensky over military aid. That was impeachment #1. #2 was over the failed coup plot.

    Now it's Joe's turn? Is the standard now to be the opposition party comes up with some allegations based on innuendo and it's off to the races with impeachment? How about basing it on something like the Trump phone call and the whistle blower's report? Concrete evidence rather than unfounded speculation.
     
  19. Zorro

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    Try listening. The purpose of this impeachment inquiry is to get to the truth for the American People.

    I can see why that is a problem for you, given that you are backing a bribed liar who is trailing in the polls

    And this isn't the only place where folks are rejecting an enormous array of attacks on our civil society by too many folks on the Left.

    WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY: “‘The use of violence is a tactic of how we keep our communities safe,’ [Portland Antifa member ‘Milo’] said.”

    'So how is that working out? More left Oregon than arrived last year, Census Bureau says, reversing decades of growth.'

    The bribery, the riots, the burning of cities, the illegal attempts to overturn the 2016 election, the corrupt CIA/FBI rigging the 2020 election, impeaching Trump for mentioning the Biden Bribes in a perfect phone call?

    Bribed Joe just took it too far and was too obvious about it, and he sucks as a president. That's all sinking him. But yes, you asked for an explanation for this impeachment inquiry, and it's about getting to the Truth for the American People.
     
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    Well, they have been doing a LOUSY job at it, given that they can't even tell the people what the hell he is being impeached FOR.
     
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  21. Seth Bullock

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    Oh yeah, that's right. My bad.

    The "Now it's Joe's turn" remark was really just a statement aimed at how low our politics have sunk lately, although the Biden business affairs are sleazy at best, and compromised a former Vice President and present day POTUS at worst.
     
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    You're still lost. This isn't an impeachment vote, it's an impeachment inquiry vote.

    White House Opens New Department Of The President Is Fine.

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    'The White House Press Office has opened a new Department of The President is Fine, according to a report from the New York Times’ new Bureau of the President is Fine in a front page story headlined “The President is Fine” which says that the White House Department of the President is Fine says the president is fine. According to the White House, the Department of the President is Fine will be tasked with explaining to the public that the president is not doing what he’s obviously doing or saying what he’s obviously saying but instead is fine.'

    The Impeachment Inquiry is about getting to the truth for the American People, and it's working well.

    Trump 48, Biden 46
    Biden 44, Ramaswamy 45
    Haley 45, Biden 43
    Biden 43, Pence 44

    Without the Corrupt FBI/CIA lying about Hunter's Laptop that details the Biden Crime Family International Bribery scheme, Bribed Joe never would have won, and we'd be looking at a race between Pence and Gov Greaseball.

    It's as simple as 1 2 3:
    1. The key point to remember is that the impeachment inquiry is about getting to the truth,
    2. Getting to the truth is about the American People,
    3. The GOP's dedication to getting to the truth for the American People is working politically.
     
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  23. Golem

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    I know. And that's even worse. The American people will know that it's purely political "payback" for the Democrats impeaching Trump, and not any actual abuse of power. Investigating to see if they can find something... anything... to impeach Biden for, is wonderful for Democrats no matter what happens next.
     
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    Yea but there was only one Vice President selling influence to them through shell companies.
     
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    But the house never voted on anything in the Mueller Report. They didn't even try. Next indeed.
     

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