Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

Perhaps so.

Sadly.

He is spot on with his info it seems and that is no doubt embarassing to the liberal media and cyberworld.

He's been at this for a while now and has appeared in/on/at some important venues but never seems to hit the major info sources.

But he keeps plugging away nonetheless.



The Annihilation of Civilizations
by Bill Warner | posted in: Newsletter | 23

By the time Mohammed died in 632 AD, Islam had used persuasion and jihad to subjugate Arabia. The annihilation of native Arabic culture is Sunna, the perfect example for all times and all Muslims. Said another way, the political theory of Islam is annihilation of Kafir civilization. How well did this political theory work out in history? Is this theory of annihilation at work today?

We have records of Mohammed’s last jihad against the Christians north of Arabia. After he died, Umar, the second caliph, took Mohammed’s jihad against the Christians and developed it into a war that conquered half of the Christian world. But this conquest was only the beginning of the political transformation. Sharia law was put into place and the Christian Kafirs became dhimmis. But Umar was not able to conquer Anatolia, the site known today as Turkey. For centuries, Islam attacked Anatolia and finally took Constantinople, now known as Istanbul, Turkey.

Take a look at the demographic history of the annihilation of the Greek Christian civilization:

This demographic growth chart of Islam has many things to teach us. The first is that the process of annihilation took centuries. Some people think that when Islam invaded, the Kafirs had the choice of conversion or death. No, absolutely not. Sharia law was put into place and the Christian dhimmis continued to have their “protected” status as People of the Book who lived under the Sharia law. The dhimmi paid heavy taxes, could not testify in court, hold a position of authority over Muslims and was humiliated by social rules. A dhimmi had to step aside for the Muslim, offer him his seat, could not carry a weapon and defer to a Muslim in every way. In all matters of society the dhimmi had to yield to the Muslim. Over the centuries, the degradation, lack of rights and the dhimmi tax caused the Christian to convert. It is the Sharia that destroys the dhimmis.

Notice where the curve is headed—100% Islam, just like Arabia. Today, Turkey is 99.7% Muslim. The Christian and Greek civilization of Anatolia is gone. It is annihilated.

What is tragic is that it seems that no one knows or cares. The Fethullah Gülen Movement (Turkish Muslim Brotherhood) of today pays for Christian ministers to go to Turkey and see an Islamic tolerant country where Christians live in beautiful harmony with Islam. And the ministers come back talking about what a wonderful society Turkey is and how well Christians are treated. After all, 0.3% of the Christians are still there in wonderful Turkey.

Look at two more Christian lands—Lebanon and Kosovo. This data only covers modern times and we do not see the beginning as we did in Turkey. See where these areas are going. In short decades, Lebanon and Kosovo will be 100% Islamic and two more Kafir civilizations will be annihilated.

It is a terrible irony that some Christians look at the destruction of Christianity and say that “those” were not real Christians. Indeed, that was the first reaction to the Islamic conquest of the first Christians, condemning those “other” Christians as heretics and saying that the jihad just pruned the garden of false doctrine.

Now, look at the next two demographic growth charts:

Pakistan and Bangladesh used to be Hindu cultures. Now they are Islamic and the few Christians and Hindus left are persecuted every day. While non-Muslims make great distinctions between religions, Islam sees them all as Kafirs. Orthodox Christians are Kafirs, Evangelical Christians are Kafirs, Hindus are Kafirs and atheists are Kafirs. ALL KAFIR civilizations must be annihilated. It is Sunna.

Let us look at one last feature of these curves. Once it starts, it never reverses. Islam never retreats. Slowly, year by year, century by century, the native Kafir civilization vanishes and is never able to fight back, never reverses Islam’s gains.

There is one exception to this law—force and the acceptance of war. Twice in history Islam has been driven out in Spain and Eastern Europe.

Today we see another approach to dealing with the Islam of annihilation. We ignore the history of annihilation and say that all we need to do is love Muslims and we will live in harmony, a wonderful multicultural civilization. A history of 1400 years without a single exception to the rule of annihilation and we will repeal it with a smile and a hug. All you need is love; love is all you need; all you need is love; love is all you need. Repeat that again and again, it will make a doctrine and history of annihilation go away. Actually, the way it works is that the history is never known. It is a cliché to say that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. It is a cliché but it is true. We have our foot on the path to annihilation today because we refuse to know history.

What is the lesson? Islam, peaceful Islam, is about destruction of all Kafir civilization. Only if the Kafirs realize the goal of Islam is annihilation of their culture, can the destruction be stopped. Islam is at war with Kafirs, and Kafirs are trying to “nice” their way out of destruction. Islam is at war, we are at nice. Mohammed has a dream that is coming true while we sleep.

Sources
Kosovo: http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/011.shtml#6
Turkey: http://home.att.net/~dimostenis/greektr.html
Lebanon: Tomass Mark, Game theory with instrumentally irrational players: A Case Study of Civil War and Sectarian Cleansing, Journal of Economic Issues, Lincoln; June 1997.
Pakistan, Bangladesh: http://hrcbmdfw.org/blogs/bangladesh...07/13/722.aspx

Bill Warner, Director, Center for the Study of Political Islam
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This information is also related to the probable conversion of the vast majority of the second century Messianic Jewish and Messianic Gentile community of the Roman Province of Judaea over to Islam!


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...bered-400-000-did-majority-convert-islam.html

First century church may have numbered 400,000... did the majority convert to Islam?


.(post #2).........Mr. Tsvi Misinai is the leading proponent of this theory:

Tsvi Misinai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

 

I love it that you and others are excited about this historical information but I am only interested in it as far as it pertains to providing clues about what they might do today or in the future and how we might prevent their conquering and subjugating us.

Sorry to disappoint.



But I know there are lots of history buffs who would love to go there with you and I hope they will!



PK

EDIT: In fact, Dr. Warner would probably welcome your posts at the bottom of the pages where these articles are archived.

After all, HE WROTE THEM AND STUDIED THE SOURCES TO WRITE THESE PIECES!

LOLOL

He was studying this subject long before 9/11/01.

He'd be the perfect guy to exchange thoughts with.

He was a college professor for many years, too!

You both should enjoy the exchange!

 

I did find and comment on one of his blogs.

What do you think of the idea of deporting people who proclaim beliefs that are obviously radical?

One of the possible benefits of doing something like this is that a somewhat more peaceful version of Islam could well arise here in Canada?

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...-deport-accused-terrorists-without-trial.html

 

The dhimmii tax was less than Muslims paid and was only for able bodied men who didn't want to serve in defense of the community.

 

Dr Warner is an ignorant man who earns his living inciting fear and hatred.. I can't believe he has a following of morons.

What you think of the Dead Sea- Red Sea Canal? It will do a lot of good in saving the Dead Sea, generating fresh water and electricity and restoring the ruined water table of the Jordan Basin.

 

Regarding Dr. Warner..... many people in the 1930's said similar things about Winston Churchill?!

There is a real possibility that perhaps one aspect of how Islam becomes de-radicalized is tougher immigration laws that deport Muslims who openly express that they may well resort to terorism.

Writing on facebook in a way that makes you appear possibly violent..... is not enough evidence to make a court case against somebody but.......... it could be sufficient reason to deny somebody permanent resident status....... or deport them if they already have it?

Another aspect of how Islam becomes less radical is in....

http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html

Another aspect of how Islamic Mystics and Christian Mystics begin to cooperate more which also..... could tend to de-radicalize both Islam as well as Christianity is in..... the near death experience accounts of Muslims, Christians, Jews as well as in the NDE's of non-monotheists who during a NDE meet the patriarchs and leaders of these three religions.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...d-son-good-prophet-prophet-muhammad-pbuh.html

I believe Abraham said "good son and good Prophet" to The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)



If more Christian Mystics and even some Jewish Mystics will begin to discuss the theory that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was in many ways a Prophet Like Unto Moses as well as perhaps King David or Elijah or the Patriarch Abraham reincarnated........ then peace will soon break out in the Middle East!!!!!!!!!

http://www.near-death.com/muslim.html

 

You are comparing that moron Warner with Churchill?????????

BTW......... Freedom of religion in Pakistan is guaranteed by the Constitution of Pakistan for individuals of various religions and religious sects.

 

Is the militant extremist version of Islam potentially as dangerous as Nazism?

Could militant Islam spark WWIII?

If so…….. then if somebody warns us about the dangers of Jihadist Islam are at least a little bit like Winston Churchill who warned England and all the world of how seriously Adolf Hitler should be taken!

 

I hadn't even heard of this project until you mentioned it.

This is encouraging indeed!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea–Dead_Sea_Canal

 

Evidently the Canadians haven't heard of it either.. The Israelis tried to stop it about 5 years ago.

 

Israel being a true democracy they will always face groups who will disagree on almost any initiative.

Landowners in the area that could well be flooded by this venture would tend to not like the idea at all.

 

Interesting! I didn't know that!

Do you think that some of the actions of ISIS are going to backfire as this article implies?

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/world/story/1.2945629
Has ISIS's latest horror show backfired in the Middle East?

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Nahlah Ayed CBC News

 

Uri Avnery is a Jew who's lived between the River and the sea longer than the Jewish state has been in existence. In 1948 Avnery suggested a Semitic Union involving Israel, Palestine, and Jordan instead of a UN partition plan that gave a Jewish state to one-third of the population of Palestine.
"Three days mark the 5th anniversary of the murder of Yasser Arafat, and bring back to me our last conversation at his Ramallah compound, a few weeks before his death.
It was he who brought up the idea of a threefold federation – Israel, Palestine and Jordan. "And perhaps Lebanon, too. Why not?" – the same as he did at our very first meeting, in Beirut, July 1982, in the middle of the war. He mentioned Benelux, the pact between Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxemburg that predated the European Union."
http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=241773
Who's to say it couldn't still work?

 

The more that I think about it…… the more sense this idea makes!

The destiny/ plan of G-d for the twelve or thirteen tribes of Israel……. is that they become a blessing/ benefit to all the nations of the earth.

Messiah arising within each Jewish person…… will inspire them to be much much much more concerned for Gentiles…….. because they will comprehend the probable implications of the reincarnation cycle and…. will regard Gentiles as very likely being their own great, great, great, great…… grandchildren from those possible past lives……. when their spirit - soul had incarnated as a Gentile?!

I would like to draw your attention to how 62.5% of people polled voted here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html
The Sahara Forest Project….. and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising Oceans!


Is turning deserts green a good response to climate change?Voters 8. You have already voted on this poll

No, only a carbon tax of some form will stop climate change! 1…………………..12.50%

Yes, plants are both a carbon as well as a water sink! 3……………………………37.50%

No, we should never engage in geo-engineering of any form or shape, EVER!!! 2………….25.00%

Yes, with one billion hungry, how can we go wrong by producing more food? 5 ………………. 62.5%

 

Wow!

Perhaps……… a significant percentage of the financing for this massive project could be done through something like a "Mitt Romney Volunteerism Hour" and organized through a database by Mitt, Kevin O'Learn and the Sharks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Tank

This has the potential to become a win - win - win - win scenario for Jordan, Lebanon, Israel, Canada and America and all nations that have citizens whose homes are vulnerable to rising ocean levels.



http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=401463&page=2&p=1065037687#post1065037687
Would Mitt Romney as President in 2016 inspire Iran to scrap nuclear weapon plans?

(post #14)….
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We are living in a time period when it is theoretically possible to address problems that people are facing through documentary, reality and semi-reality film projects that could significantly be financed through something like local currencies as demonstrated in Worgl, Austria during the Great Depression. It is amazing how few Americans and Canadians know how successfully this experiment was replicated in the USA at that time!
http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html
Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?
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http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717

 

I don't think it has anything to do with climate change, growing food to feed people.

The thing about prophecy is that it is vague and a poor guide to the future.

And sometimes some prophecy may not be actual prophecy at all, for example, since my last post I've since found out that the book of Revelation may actually be veiled political commentary using allegory and metaphor on the politics of Rome.

The reason would be because Roman politicians will sometimes put people in jail or even outright kill them for being critical of the government.

Which, ironically, is essentially the same problems Nostradamus faced when he wrote his quatrains.

 

Since meta studies show that begging to an unproven invisible slavery-approving magic man in the sky is not as effective as taking real-world action, I bet we can come up with more effective ways of creating political change than said begging.

 

Good points........... but....... sometimes one of the best ways to get a certain segment of the population to THINK about a problem in a new way........ is to ask for them to pray or meditate about it?!

This other version of the same discussion over on a Christian forum..... has gotten 1570 views so far...…

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...peace-deal-between-jordan-and-israel.7829264/

Pray that P. M. Stephen Harper initiate a peace deal between Jordan and Israel?

 

Israel is not a democracy unless you support two tiered citizenship and there is NO chance that anyone's land would be flooded.

I can't believe you are going on about this crap when you obviously don't know anything about it or that Jordan and Israel have been at peace for decades.

 

If two levels to citizenship can prevent a war and/or the ethnic cleansing of the Jews who have fled to Israel........... then two tiers of citizenship would be a worthwhile compromise.

My wife has Canadian residency...… but cannot vote unless she applies for her citizenship...… in a way actual citizenship vs residency is at least somewhat like two tiers of citizenship and it really works...…

Yes...… it is wonderful that the relationship between Jordan and Israel has been so good ...… but I am talking about a whole new level of economic, artistic, diplomatic unity and cooperation............… that makes a lack of warfare seem rather anemic in comparison.

If this proposal can actually create two hundred million three to seven year acting jobs for China, Mongolia, India and Russia........ just imagine how this could potentially impact the economies of Jordan and Israel??????

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...mageddon-could-bring-world-out-recession.html

Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

..........A serious attempt to replicate "Armageddon" would create a minimum of two hundred million jobs in China, India, Russia and Mongolia alone....... not to mention the number of jobs this would generate in Israel and the surrounding nations.




Revelation 9:16
"And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

China now holds so many American dollars that any possible way to cooperate at a higher level seems to be worthy of consideration.

One of the "stages" is the Jerusalem Third Temple complex. Without conflict a film is boring and we all know that lots of conflict surrounds the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple. Two logical years for this to happen are 2030 (only fifteen years in the future) and also 2070.

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ay-least-expensive-way-stabilize-climate.html

Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

 

Instead of begging, how about get them to ACT on it.

 

Begging is certainly not as effective as appealing to the possibility of investors making money off the project……

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html
Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?

Mr. Justin Trudeau, I am truly impressed to see that you also met with King Abdullah of Jordan during his recent visit.

For years now I have been thinking that documentary, reality and semi-reality science fiction film projects can be used to address some of the massive problems that humanity is facing.

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Instead of begging…… I am hoping to get them laughing???!

http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...ughn-mitt-romney-he-wins-election-2012-a.html
Vince Vaughn…. as Mitt Romney…. and he wins the election in 2012?!

I am sure that Mitt remembers the line made famous by Max Baer……."Jethro Bodine, movie producer at your service!"

Let's imagine that Mr. Romney actually won the election back in November of 2012 and…….. .like me, DennisTate, Mitt is concerned over a serious devaluation of the USA dollar before the year 2020 so…… Mitt hires Vince Vaughn to play the role of himself and……...

 

Neither China nor Russia give a fig about Israel... and they tried to build the third temple around 300 AD but it was felled by fire and earthquakes.

This is a load of claptrap.

 

Back in the 1970's Russia cared a lot about Israel.

You haven't read about the sheer magnitude of the arms stash in southern Lebanon that was discovered underground when Israel invaded Lebanon have you?

http://www.tldm.org/News9/RussianInfluenceOnMideast.htm