Pointless government home invasions targetting anyone "suspicious"

Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by Anders Hoveland, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    I read those links. Really only four separate stories I think.

    I certainly gotta' respect those anarchist, preppers, etc. At least they are doing something. However, they really appear to be giving the police state a job more than anything else.
    Not at all impressed by their strategy and choice of political basis, but also know that is not their fault.

    There has been an invasion or infiltration of universities since about 1993 by socialistic thinking. The only thing I can say for socialism is it does take care of the people and is a hell of a lot better than communism.

    I will also state that capitalism the way America has been practicing it is a lose, lose situation.

    There is another form of capitalism which is based in anarchistic thinking but is spiritual. The Indigenous American people practiced it, but modern America knows nothing about it. In fact, if I were to try and explain it, you would not believe it.

    You know NOTHING about the basis of its spirituality.

    Back to the activism;
    Believe it or not, the 1787 constitution was the basis of a bare bones government, because most of the people had been living a basic anarchistic existence for over 3 generations.

    Franklin, Jefferson and Washington knew the Indigenous people well, particularly Franklin. The structure of natural law integrated into the republic they created came largely from the Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy. And there were bits from the Magna Carta too.

    My point is this. Following the civil war the federal government was taken over by big English money that was essentially an economic arm of Rome. The 1787 constitution was covertly abandoned.

    All that these anarchists oppose is from that.

    Or in other words, if they understood what the Indigenous people knew about capitalism and spirituality while standing for the 1787 constitution, they would have a great deal of mainstream support and no problems with FBI etc. Because in reality, they would be more lawful than any fed, and people would know it. The Feds would be afraid to touch them because they would be opposing the only real constitution there is.

    I tried explaining this at the OWS forum, and was banned and censored with covert infiltrators working to bash my message hard. So the $ behind OWS was not sincere. All that socialistic stuff was a front that did not even appreciate where the right to assemble came from.

    They outright refused to petition for the right to alter or abolish. Their petitions were hardly more than wish lists. As far as I can tell, the whole thing served as a signal to law enforcement to crack down on any assembly whatsoever of counter culture people.
     
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    What we are seeing is indeed new and something people should be concerned about. People post many opinions online these days and technology has reached the point that the government has begun experimenting with the idea of pre-crime, that they can spot people who will commit seditious acts before they occur. Because of this, anyone who post to many things outside of what they consider an normal range is a potential target for further investigation or other actions. We've reached an era of secret investigations and secret courts, one where you can be judged without ever being given the right to defend yourself. It is remeniscent of the McCarthy era, however what we are seeing is more pervasive and far more people will be victimized before all is said and done.
     

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