Polish Senate Recognizes Genocide By Ukrainian Nationalists

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is interesting. The Polish Senate Recognizes the genocide committed by Bandera's UPA against the Polish people at the same time that the largest Avenue in Kiev is being renamed Stepan Bandera Avenue by the Ukrainian senate.

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    Polish Senate adopted a resolution that recognizes the July 11 National Day of Remembrance for the victims of genocide committed by the UPA (Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists - Ukrainian Insurgent Army) against the inhabitants of the II Republic of Poland (1918-1945).

    "The Senate of the Republic of Poland pays tribute to the residents of the Second Republic of Poland, brutally killed by Ukrainian nationalists", - stated in the text of the document.

    http://katehon.com/news/senate-poland-acknowledged-volyn-massacre-genocide


    Avenue of Moscow, Russia's capital, in Kiev was renamed Stepan Bandera Avenue. The decision was made at a City Council meeting on Thursday, July 7th.

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/major-avenue-in-kiev-began-to-bear-name.html
     
  2. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    The same may be said about the Poles and Russians also that were committed against Ukrainians..somehow I doubt that will happen..
     
  3. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have scoured the net to find this story but they all seem to lead to dead ends. Your article claims the story is from this site;
    http://www.wp.pl/

    I do not find any mention of this Polish resolution on the site though.

    TASS claims the story is from Radio Poland
    http://tass.ru/en/world/887135

    http://www.thenews.pl/
    Couldn't find the resolution there either

    I also checked the Polish Senates webpage and they didn't seem to mention it either.

    https://www.senat.gov.pl/en/

    Could you provide a Polish source for this?
    Also... I am getting pretty tired of having to waste so much time looking up your claims. Could you PLEASE start providing actual sources?
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look, I know your intent is to keep reality hidden from the posters for some self serving reason, but you can stop the hypocrisy and lies. Those were not the sources I gave you ...as my above post can attest to. Now let me post them again, that way others can check as to their accuracy:



    Since you stated you want other references, then here they are:


     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the story is false.

    Polish legislature did no such thing
     
  6. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    The lies are all your manufactured by the. Stalinists and the NKVD. There were cases of fighting between Polish and Ukrainians after the polish occupation administration was removed from power. That us no surprise during times if uncertainty and changes of occupiers. Western Ukraine went from Polish occupation to Soviet -Russian occupation.

    The Russian NKVD aka. theRussuan SS was responsible for genocide in Western Ukraine, Belarus, and parts of neighboring Russia. Remember the Katyn Firest Masecre ! , The Russians murdered over 10, 000 officers of the Polish Army, Ukrainian Chatholics Priests, intelligence a, and businessmen. The Russians girl years claimed that the bodies in the Katyn Forest graves were Jews murdered by Germans. The Russian lie was debunked when skeletons were found with Christian crosses. The Germans were very vile and the Germans stripped their victims of valuables before killing them. The Russian NKVD killed out of raw political and ethnic hatred and shot people but the filthy Communist slugs did not take Chustian crosses.


    The Russian NKVD murdred people including entire villages between 1939 and 1941 and again between 1944 and 1953 in Western Ukraine and blamed the graves sites on Ukrainian Nationlists and Germans. The Germans obviously did commit genocide of Jews but their methods were different in that they just machine gunned and used rifle fire.

    The Russian NKVD liked to live up their victims in small groups and used small Celebrex pistols to the back of the head. After the USSR fell apart graves were uncovered and evidence showed that must of the sites were NKVD Russian killing fields.

    During WW II and right up to 1989 the KGB ( the child of the NKVD ) spent years fabricating stories and producing phony documents blaming Nationalists fur the murders conducted by the genicidalbRussian NJVD.
     
  7. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    Wolyn Massacre done by Ukrainian UPA killed more Polish than Soviets killed Polish in Katyn Massacre.

    While Polish victims of Soviets in Katyn Massacre were mostly intelligentsia, in Wolyn Massacre Polish victims were mostly women, and children.

    While the 2 chief commanders behind Katyn Massacre were 2 Georgians of Stalin, and Beria.

    Everyone involved in Wolyn Massacre was Ukrainian, Bandera was a Ukrainian.

    Might I point out the gruesome nature of Wolyn Massacre, with Polish people hacked in half by saws even.
     
  8. Gaius_Marius

    Gaius_Marius Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course not... Only if it is something she can use. Creating dissension between Poland and Ukraine seems to be the objective here. So had the Poles passed this resolution she would link to it I think.
     
  9. Jeannette

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    I read an account by a Polish priest and couldn't believe the atrocities that the UPA committed. ..especially against the children. They would pick them up by the legs and bash their heads against the wall. ..which makes me wonder, are they on drugs, or in the occult? I know that the ones involved in burning and hacking the people in the trade building at Odessa were given drugs to make them senseless. They say that the real count of people dead are about 300 and there will be a book coming out about it.

    What makes the whole thing obscene, is that instead of feeling remorseful about the crimes of their grandparents, the Ukrainians were offended when Poland asked them not to honor Bandera.
     
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    how come this isn't in the Polish or German media?

    British media?
     
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    The so called Volyn massacres were not done by UPA but by Sovuet Guerillas and NJVD. dressed up like UPA. Stefan Bandera was not. UPA he was OUN. OUN was a political organization known as the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists.

    I will say that the Polish Underground and a group that used the name UPA known as the Tara's Bulba Brigade did fight each other in Volyn. Did some Poles kill Ukrainians in Volyn and did done Ukrainians kill Poles in Volyn, sure that happened.

    AsI noted above the Soviets dressed up as UPA and went around committing murders in order to discredit Ukrainian Nationalists.
     
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    My grandparents did not commit any crimes so why would I feel remorseful for something that never happened. What the hell are you talking about some building in Odesa! UPA did not operate in Odesa.Odesa even back then was very Russianized and did not have much Nationalist activity.

    Odesa would have been in the UPA -South division but there was almost no activity in the city. UPA South did operate a bit a little bit inBukoviba.

    Bandera spent most of his efforts in fighting thecRussian NKVD. The last tines I checked the NKVD did not have children as agents so since the OUN fought the NKVD how could they hurt any non existent children?


    You want to talk about bacteria who killed children ok five we are on. The NKVD gathered up family members of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Russians like to cut open the bellies of pregnant Ukrainian women and then throw the fetuses on the barbed wire of the prison camps. Is that what you meant by children being killed? It must be.
     
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    Reason it,s not in the media is because just maybe all the stuff us made up and exists in the files of the NKVD KGB and Kremlin.
     
  14. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh then these are not Ukrainians wearing their grandparents uniforms, they are Russians posing as Ukrainians and wearing the uniforms their Russian grandparents wore when they pretended they were Ukrainians so they could kill the Poles to make the Ukrainians look bad. I get it! :wall:

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    This territory was occupied by Nazi Germany, not by Soviets.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are writing by the Germans saying they were appalled at the cruelty of the Ukrainians. But that's not the point, the point is that if people are not able to recognize and feel remorse at what their ancestors did, then have they really changed and would they do the same thing if circumstances allowed it? I mean to flash Bandera to the Polish people would be like flashing a picture of Hitler to the Jews, and then feeling offended if they complained.

    I'm not just criticizing the Ukrainian nationalists, but also the Turks who refuse to accept the genocides they committed even though the American Library of Congress is packed with accounts of it, as well as what the Japanese did...especially to the Chinese. The Japanese leaders do accept the crimes, but will not tell the people so they won't suffer feelings of communal guilt.
     
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    Russia refuses to acknowledge the war crimes committed by the Soviets during WW2.

    in fact, its a crime to discuss it
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think this video would interest you. I have to warn you though it is graphic:

    [video=youtube;5OJyKyinpks]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OJyKyinpks[/video]
     
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    Educate yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia
     
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    The Polish source: http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1342,ti...iej,wid,18413272,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=117555

    The Ukrainian source: http://obozrevatel.com/abroad/67398-senat-polshi-prinyal-rezolyutsiyu-po-volyinskoj-tragedii.htm
     
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    He's an EU apparatchik.
     
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    Anything to do with Soviet warm crimes..discussions..teachings..desalinization of literature is a crime..even in Russia today..the truths are painful..
     
  23. Gaius_Marius

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    Thanks. It is a very different article than what Jeannette tried to pass off in her propaganda war.

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    Since you seem to be wrong about 90% of the things you comment on and seem to have a loose relationship with facts that is pretty empty coming from you.
     
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    Germans killed about 200,000 Polish in Warsaw, that's nearly 2 X more than Ukrainians killed Polish in Wolyn, and Galicia.
     
  25. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read the biography of Pope John Paul II so I know how the Germans were trying to destroy Polish culture... and which he tried hard to preserve. There are a lot of historical animosities and hatreds in that part of the world, which is a pity. People should learn to appreciate the cultural differences and what each society can contribute to the world instead of trying to crush them and impose their own on others.
     

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