POLL: After Iran

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POLL: After Iran

  1. Assad

    3 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Hamas

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Korea (northern)

    2 vote(s)
    33.3%
  4. Pakistan (but not the Hindoo ones)

    1 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. rangecontraction

    rangecontraction New Member

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    Iran's liberation is most probably being planned in the USA, Israel, Europe, Saudi and Turkey.

    I am highly confident that a "coalition of the willing" will in due course liberate Iran, freeing the people of Iran from their terrorist leaders and their weapons of mass destruction.. as well as privatising and selling off Iranian assets to the heroic liberators,

    I think we need to proceed with our liberation programme after Iran. I have listed the most viable candidates for liberation. Kindly vote.
     
  2. rangecontraction

    rangecontraction New Member

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    Regarding the 3rd option, there are good Koreans and bad ones. The bad ones live in the north and believe in the kind of socialism that Bernie Sanders does. Their leader is an evil person.

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    Personally I voted for Assad's liberation. He hates Israel (and is also doing a genocide).
     
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    So far Assad is in the lead.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hahaaha!!!! you're the only one who voted!!!!!!
     
  5. Socialism Works

    Socialism Works Well-Known Member

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    We know you want Iran "liberated". You have said so a million times. It's all getting a bit old, so give up on it already.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its called "trolling"
     
  7. rangecontraction

    rangecontraction New Member

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    Look who's talking...
     
  8. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    Worry about the homeland?
    Leave Iranians alone.There will probably be a natural revolution there within 10 years if the US keeps their noses out.
    If they stick nose in,it will not be good.Then you'll have the people that would have been good hating us.
    There needs to be no more of this "Foreign regime-change" BS.
     
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    Actually, Iran already seems to be undergoing a slow reformist revolution:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...lies-win-parliament-poll-160430141119948.html
     
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  12. Pollycy

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    Couldn't vote because I can't agree with your assumptions. We are not going to "liberate" Iran or any other Islamic country. If our adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan taught us nothing else, surely they taught us that! Might as well write off the Middle East... Russia is the big dog there now and even Israel has given up on the U. S. now with Netanyahu going to Moscow several times in the past year to make overtures to Putin.

    But, yes, at some point there will be some kind of a big "******* war" between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Based on everything I can see, read, or hear, Iran will win that one... easily. Besides, they will have nuclear weapons at some point, probably within the next five years. They've already got ballistic missiles....
     
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    Syria has to be pacified first.

    You couldn't be more wrong.

    Your Global Strategic Strategy calls for regime change in Iran. Control of Iran is necessary for the US to control Central Asia, and control of Central Asia is necessary to gain control of the Eastern Russian Republics.
     
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    The poll needs a "none of the above" option.
     
  15. Pollycy

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    An American "Global Strategic Strategy" (is this another Obama "brain-fart" of the same kind that the "Red Line" in Syria was...?), would obviously be based on the most unhinged fantasy imaginable.

    For a start:

    1. The U. S. doesn't have "control" over Iran, and with such enigmatically stupid "achievements" as the recent nuclear deal as a roadmap, the U. S. will accomplish nothing but failure in its dealings with Tehran.

    2. The U. S. does not control Central Asia, and if our long, ongoing series of defeats and stalemates in Afghanistan provide any insight, we won't be in a commanding position in Central Asia any time soon. Hint: Russia is cementing deal after deal with the nations in the area of the Caspian Sea. Question: With Russia on one side, and China on the other, where is the U. S. supposed to establish its "control" over South Asia...?

    3. Russia is, if anything, growing more powerful and assertive every year. They have complete dominance over the area of the Black Sea, the Baltic Sea, and nearly all of the Caspian Sea. By contrast, the American military forces continue to dwindle in size and strength... especially our Navy whose number of ships has dwindled to pre-WWII levels.

    Predictions:
    1. Hillary will be elected.
    2. Israel will cement a close, cordial relationship with the REAL power in the Middle East -- Russia.
    3. Iran will produce nuclear weapons (it already has ballistic missiles).
    4. Russia and China will forge an even closer, more collaborative military and economic relationship, effectively establishing control over the Eastern Hemisphere.
    5. Russia and Germany will enjoy an increasingly mutually-beneficial relationship, and as Germany goes, so goes Western Europe.
    6. The U. S. will continue to be even more hatefully divided between capitalists and socialists and the resulting unwillingness of these factions to compromise will make Americans even more fractured, angry, and frustrated than ever before. We will be essentially directionless and leaderless, while our Middle Class continues to be wiped out and the only remaining good jobs will be in working for the government....

    Hint: there are REASONS that Vladimir Putin has been named Most Powerful Leader in the World by Forbes for the last three years in a row: http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesp...the-worlds-most-powerful-people/#438249246d11 . It's not just that Putin has a Ph.D in Economics, plus other degrees... it's that he's intelligent, focused, experienced, and willing to do what is right for his people, the people of RUSSIA! Obama, by contrast, is none of these things, and his heir-apparent, "Hilarity" Clinton is, if anything, showing signs that she will be even worse....

    [​IMG]. "Three American presidents in a row who are idiots?! Could I be that lucky?!"
     
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    I am bored silly with his trolling.

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    I would say the same.. I too am bored with your trolling.
     
  17. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "WE?"


    I didn't vote because the choices omitted genuine global threats

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    Whenever I hear pro War cheerleading from those clearly unwilling to lead or even participate in the fight, I think unflattering things about the speaker & his/her courage.

    For Example:

    “Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC’s successes over the past year”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun; Jan. ’03



    How many wars must other countries, especially the US, fight for insatiable Zionist Regional Hegemony before Britain & the US, for example, deport the parasitic Zionist Lobbies that extort their resources & blood of their young military members?

    Israel's Oded Yinon Plan and similar ones composed by "Greater Israel" Zionists (i.e. PNAC, & "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm"[1]) are there for those willing to see the the insatiable War Mongering greed who are so eager to swoop in & participate in:

    I am strongly confident that there will never be a
    with Israel risking any of its child killing, IDF Terrorist thugs from the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine's Native non Jewish Residents.

    Firstly, educated Iran watchers have seen the number of women outnumber the number of clerics in the new Iranian Parliament as the number of moderates & Reformists grow in number. So, Iran is essentially liberating itself from the Hard Liners which were the predictable result of Colonial meddling in the CIA installation of the Shah & his brutal SAVAK.

    It is the Colonial Powers (i.e. U.S.A. Britain & France) that need liberating from their nefarious, insatiable & parasitic Zionist lobbies whose Ethnic Cleansing Zionist Regime foments fatally flawed Wars in which the children of other nations sacrifice their lives & limbs for Zionist Hegemony







    [1[ "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm"
    http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/at...n-break-a-new-strategy-for-securing-the-realm


    [2] “Greater Israel” or “Greater Khazaria”?
    http://americanfreepress.net/?p=19547
    EXCERPTS “ Divide and conquer is an age-old strategy for empire-builders.
    Now the Zionists—and their American lackeys—are doing the same to establish Israeli hegemony throughout the Middle East and North Africa. And it was long planned. But is the intention merely for “Greater Israel”—“from the Nile to the Euphrates,” as Theodor Herzl proclaimed—or is this the first step toward a world empire we should call “Greater Khazaria”?

    "(*)In 1982, the World Zionist Organization’s Department of Information, their propaganda arm, published “A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties,” by Oded Yinon. This “Yinon Plan” has been followed for decades by Israel in order to establish “Greater Israel.”
    Recently, the German-language website “National Journal” illustrated the surprising, key role the Islamic State (IS), also known as ISIS, plays in the success of this Zionist quest for regional domination—although ostensibly Israel’s enemy.
    As this newspaper has reported, Israel and its U.S. and EU puppets have waged constant war for years against all the countries named by Yinon, and more: Libya, Egypt, Sudan, Iraq, Syria."CONTINUED
     
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    May I remind you that Iranians are regularly chanting "death to America" in public meetings? Can't get more hateful than that, can you?

    Iranians are not Arabs, they have a very different cultural and political background. Iran is the only Muslim country that can become fully democratic following the western model.

    Israel has not given up on the US. Obama has given up on Israel.

    The Iranian and Syrian issues are intertwined. It seems to me that the fall of the Iranian theocracy would help solve the Syrian crisis faster.

    I'd say "influence" instead of "control". You can't control so many countries all the time, you can only compete with other players for influence. The question is, what have the US to offer that Putin has not (in terms of realpolitik, not ideologies).
     
  19. creation

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    Why are you such a d-bag all the time?

    Is it because your Israeli?

    Why can't you just be normal?
     
  20. Pollycy

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    That makes as much sense as somebody in 1938 saying, "Adolf Hitler has given up on Jews!" Your forum "flag" indicates that you are an Israeli (?). Well, I'm not Jewish, and I'm not Israeli, but even up here in the Rocky Mountains of the United States I can see clearly that Vladimir Putin is just about the only potential friend and ally you in Israel can count on.

    If nothing else, remember this -- you've already seen how easily Obama and his hyperliberal, America-hating socialist extremists have been happy to throw down our own borders and wreck nearly everything that was beneficial and wonderful about life in this country. A creature with Obama's mindset views Israelis as elitists, racists, and selfish, money-grubbing manipulators. He's already given your arch-enemies in Iran a glowing green light to develop nuclear weapons, for which the Iranians already possess ballistic missiles. But Obama has given up on Israel? There's an old saying -- "One hates what one wrongs...."

    Putin may only be interested, ultimately, in what's best for Russia. That's HIS job. But he's the only real hope you have at this point, and the sooner you come to grips with that in Israel, the more likely you are to survive this wretched period of Democrat Party rule we're in the big (*)(*)(*)(*)ty middle of right now here in the United States. Bottom line: Russia has control over nearly all of the Middle East right now, and Russia can protect you. America is a totally disorganized state of political chaos, and you cannot rely on America to help you at all. Hell, we can't even help ourselves....
     
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    Iran has already been liberated. In 1979 the Iranian people liberated themselves from the tyrannical rule of the Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran, that was installed by "Western" government (e.g. the UK and US) that were responsible for the overthrow of the democratic government in Iran in 1953.

    Why am I not amazed by the fact that many Americans, predominately Republicans, are completely ignorant of world history?
     
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    Yeah U.S. sponsored "regime-change" failed horribly there and has spawned countless negative consequences.
    Think they learned from it? I don't.
     
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    The Iranians were "liberated"? In 1979? I remember it like it was yesterday.

    The Shah was your garden-variety third-world despot in an unremarkable third-world pisspot which gained in importance only because by the late 1970's, oil production and oil reserves had become a BIG deal.

    Out went the Shah, like dozens of other tin-pot dictators before him throughout the third-world. Ho-hum. BUT, what replaced him? An insane swarm of America-hating Islamo-Nazi religious maniacs who almost immediately seized our American Embassy in Tehran and took all of our people there prisoner for NO valid reason at all. Can we at least agree on that much of the story...?

    The insane swarm of Islamo-Nazis are in power to this day, and now, thanks to our wonderous Islam-loving President Hussein Obama, they'll be able to develop nuclear weapons in peace and quiet at any and all of their military installations without being bothered at all with "inspections"! They already have ballistic missiles, too. Can we at least agree on this, too?

    Oh, the Iranian people, mostly the younger ones, tried in 2009 to rise up against the Islamic religious theocracy that rules over them, but they were crushed and defeated. So, bottom line, they went from having a despotic, mainly secular "Shah" to having an insane Islamic priesthood instead. Can we by any chance agree on that?

    Then what's the "net-net" of this for Iran? Are any of the Iranians happy about any of this except for the idiot Islamo-Nazis...?

    [​IMG]. "Dude! Did you see the look on Netanyahu's face?!"
     
  24. Tommy Palven

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    No, I can't agree with any of that. I agree with this Wikipedia article. That after the Shah was overthrown and fled to the US, that Iranian students took hostages to try to force the return of the Shah for trial and the return of the alleged billions of dollars he took with him.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

    And Iran is now the only Muslim nation in the Mid-East with a democracy, and that democracy just elected a majority of moderate reformists to parliament.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...est-number-seats-parliament-article-1.2620367
     
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    Any more revisionist history? Virtually all of the above is either a half-truth or completely false and probably came from Fox News that's not known for always being accurate in it's political or historical reporting.
     
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