A friend of mine posted this message: I thought this was interesting, and wondered how accurate it was, so I figured I'd make it a poll. Who do you support and do you fly a US flag in front of your home?
No, flying an American Flag means that you love and support the country of America! Instead of dispising and undermining America to support some twisted kind of "Transformation" into a one world Social Hell abusive authoritarian Government... So, yeah, I guess you're right, in 2012, flying an American Flag pretty much means you'll be voting for Romeny.
That almost seems like a subtle form of propaganda... implying that all true patriots support Romney...
You can bet your last dollar that anyone sporting an American flag won't be voting for obama. An oxymoron if you know what I mean.
It is difficult to attribute any sort of party allegiance to the personal choice of flying the American flag on one's house, since most of us have been doing so since many years before anybody even heard of Obama or Romney. When I was an Army brat, traveling around the world and moving every 2 to 3 years, we always had an American flag on display in front of our on-post quarters. We didn't do so when we lived in stairwell housing in Germany, but then again, there was a huge American flag that was raised each morning at dawn, near the garrison headquarters. Years later, as an Army aviator, traveling all around the world and moving every 2 to 3 years, I carried on the tradition with my family. There has been an American flag on display on the front of my current house each and every day since I moved in here 9 years ago. Do I fly the flag to support one candidate or another? No. I fly the flag because it means something special to me, and it tells passers-by how I feel about my country.
Yes I do, but I don't want to take my precious time to point out all of the obvious reasons as to why they are un/anti American at this time. It would be helpful in answering your question for you to come up with one reason or one sign that shows liberals to be pro America or at least somewhat patriotic. You see, when a liberal has an ideology steeped in communist, marxist, progressive socialist tradition--it doesn't exactly give us a picture of a pro/patriotic American.
Conservatives are the real anti-Americans, look at what they have done to the country over the last 30 years. The further to the right we go as a nation, the worse we get.
Both you and Libhater are inherently incorrect. To proclaim someone is anti-American due to contrary politics is an arguably anti-American sentiment in itself. Liberals think they know whats best for America, as do conservatives. Attempting to support what you believe is best for America is patriotic, even if you're wrong by someone else's standards.
Here is my opinion. Take it for what it is worth. I think that far too many Americans have lost touch with what patriotism even means. Both Democrats and Republicans. They don't understand what the flag represents. What so many struggled, fought, and died for us to have. They have become spoiled and complacent. We have a culture of 'mom and her new boyfriend buying the kids McDonalds Big Macs and greasy french fries' instead of everyone sitting down to a nice home cooked meal as a family. A culture where legions of mindless twits hang around the mall, carefully grabbing at the waistband of their sagging jeans, right around the location of their dicks, and wearing shiny $200 sneakers and jacked-up looking ball caps cocked sideways, listening to vapid, useless, formulamatic pop music and rap/hip-hop on the latest bejeweled smart phone and ear buds. A society where watching Jerry Springer, American Idol, and Dancing With the Stars on the television is more important than homework. Or any work, for that matter. Fact: Millions of (unfortunately) voting-age Americans adore Kim Kardashian, Justin Bieber, and Paris Hilton, and have no idea who Carl Sagan was. Or Isaac Asimov. Or what The Bill Of Rights is all about. Artifice and appearance is all-important, and substance is a lost concept. The truth is a negotiable thing. Integrity is an outdated anachronism. A healthy-bodied jackass drawing a disability check is something to be admired. (What a clever and resourceful fellow.) A government job in a union shop is not an achievement, it is an entitlement. And a cash-cow forever, with no expectation of productivity or performance. We have observed the rise of two generations now of slackers and mindless, clueless twits. People who want everything given to them, and who have no idea what the average Soldier sacrifices in order to make sure they have the freedom to sit back and get it. What it is like to sail away on a fast frigate in the US Navy, not knowing if or when you will be coming home. What each and every US Marine would be willing to do, all in order that the flag not fall and hit the ground, or to stop bad men from doing wrong to innocent people. To quibble over, "your party is wrong and mine is right", or "my candidate is golden and perfect, and your candidate is an evil bloodsucker", at this point in history, is ridiculous. It is time for the era of shiny, pop-culture veneer to give way to real leadership and true patriotism. Sacrifice in the name of the common good, not "let's make the other side pay for all our good stuff". Hard work, perseverance, teamwork, and integrity, instead of partisan-bickering, useless blathering and twittering, and Party talking-points back-biting. This isn't a pipe-dream, this is a practical reality, and a critical turning-point for this country. We either continue down the road of stupidity, artificiality, ignorance, and bankruptsy, or we take a hard and difficult turn toward accountability, responsibility, struggle, determination, and national pride. If you think that the words I just typed indicate some sort of political message, or an admonition to vote for one candidate or another, you are wrong. The words I just typed are a challenge for you to look deep inside yourself, and to make your own decisions on where you are, how you got there, what you just might owe to those who came before you, and..... what you are going to do in the future to help make this nation better.
It is interesting, but so far the poll seems to support the stereotype. Perhaps part of the reason has to do with a difference in attitudes toward the flag and the country. The mindset that the US is the greatest country in the world seems to be more common on the right, so they are more likely to fly a flag out of pride for being part of that country. The left seems to more often have a mindset that other countries (usually in Europe) are as good or better than the us, so they may be less likely to show pride in their nation and its flag.
I would have to say that the person who knocked on the door already told you the answer. Whether she knew this because she too supports Romney and waves the flag, or that she supports Obama and doesn't.
I disagree, by calling out twits that think the cons have ownership on the flag and patritism by pointing how damaging their political ideals are is in fact very pro American.
I was just thinking there might actually be a correlation. It doesn't mean that by flying a flag you are supporting a specific candidate, it just means that the same kinds of people who fly flags tend to be the ones who support Romney (or possibly just the republican or more conservative option).
Could be. Though, to be honest, I am not a good yardstick by which you could measure such a thing. I am an independent, and I have been told recently that my political views run toward the libertarian corner of things. I am for the legalization of marijuana (so that individual States can market and tax it appropriately, NOT the federal government), but I am for the death penalty for anyone who sells or manufactures crystal meth. I am morally against abortion, but I sadly concede that it is a necessary tragedy in this 21st century (compared to most of the alternatives) and so I would never lobby for the overturn of Roe v Wade. I love the earth, and keep a protected wetlands carefully preserved on my land here. I would never kill a harmless animal, and (though I enjoy target-shooting with my guns) I do not hunt. But I drive a car, ride a motorcycle, and I fly helicopters. Burning fossil fuels the whole way. I served in the Army, and even went to war. But I detest unnecessary violence, and I am a legendary lover of unwashed hippie chicks. I do not necessarily support Romney, but this time, in this year 2012, I am forced to vote for him. The alternative is another four years of the useless crook/politician Barack Obama. Not very clear-cut, is it? No readily-discernable blacks or whites. There are a lot of grays in this world. The uncomfortable, disconcerting grays.
And like I said before, on this forum that is like a rasmusson poll, totally slanted and completely useless. The very idea that the rightist are more patriotic or fly the flag more or love their country more is ludicrous and has no merit what so ever. It does however demonstrate the rights insecurities.
My next-door-neighbour flies an English flag as big as six table-cloths, putting it up whenever that sad country plays footle-ball - but he leaves it there till it rots when they lose. It means he is inadequate, so generalise from that.
You lose. This is some more of that old tired Sarah Palin meme: There are parts of this country that are more "American" than other parts. Anyone who is in political opposition of a Conservative or Republican is obviously a traitor. Only "real Americans" support Romney while only stupid commie bastards support Obama. Utter hogwash! Just another page from the Conservative playbook of Bully and Divide. I wish such people would grow up.
So you sincerely believe that you would find the same number of leftists as rightists regularly flying flags? I personally think there will be a significant difference in those numbers. Maybe I'll do a research project on it sometime.
Its a stereotype, with some truth to it. Republicans love America, Democrats love to hate America. Republicans boast of American greatness in the world, while democrats feel the need to apologize for our shortcommings in the world.
