Poll: Does Ron Paul have your Vote?

I voted yes.

 

He WOULD have my vote, if the media would not destroy him before election and give me a chance to actually vote for him, however...when the time comes: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jZTd9j6_yg&playnext=1&list=PL9259CE03CDCA9571"]Ron Paul - The Smear Campaign - YouTube[/ame]

 

The media is a dick sometimes.

 

Roflolol, food has the intrinsic value of keeping people alive. Gold has no intrinsic value, its value is all subjective.

 

FACT-food has the INTRINSIC value of keeping humans alive.
Fact - gold has the INTRINSIC value of being pretty and conducting electricity.
Hmm, wow, the intrinsic value of food is magnitudes higher than that of gold.

 

Ok. Since you are so smart, what is the objective value of any given unit of food? I'll be waiting.

 

If there is such thing as objective (intrinsic) value, then it's easy enough to argue that gold has instrinsic value as a medium of exchange given that it has all of the properties necessary for that purpose and it more easily fulfills that purpose than any other commodity.

 

Only if you PERSONALLY consider staying alive to be preferable to conducting electricity. But that's a PERSONAL PREFERENCE, and therefore subjective. It's true most people hold that preference, but that doesn't mean it's OBJECTIVE and UNIVERSAL. Only someone profoundly arrogant would try to claim, "This is more valuable than that because I find it more valuable."

And of course, you ignore the marginal utility aspect. If you have 10,000 refrigerators full of a food would you rather have ANOTHER refrigerator full of food or a exquisite gold watch?

 

Even though I voted for Rand Paul as Senator,I will not
vote for Ron Paul unless he's the nominee.I consider him the
very ideal of extreme.He's incapable of moderating any view.
He wants to abolish the Federal Reserve.Drastically limit our Military.
Make drugs legal.I'm not too terribly interested in a strict Constitutionalist.
Paul is not very good at debating.He appears unsure of many of his
views as if they are more theory than practice.
In a pinch he's make a terrible leader.
Ron Paul is not a bad guy,but like Bernie Sanders his out of whack
idea'rs about governing won't work.
Unlike Sanders who is a Liar and hoodwinker,Paul is not tough enough to
be President.A President has to bend to the will of the Populace.

 

The Federal Reserve creates the business cycle and destroys the value of the currency. Ron Paul would give people the freedom to use alternative currencies to the Fed's manipulated dollars.

The United States doesn't need a huge, overseas warfare state. It makes us less safe, is inhumane to people in foreign countries, and wastes huge amounts of money. You can't really talk about balancing the budget unless you deal with the vast amounts of overseas spending.

The Drug War is a disaster that involves locking people in prison nonviolent acts. It's vastly expanded the police state, destabilized communities, and has been a boon to organized crime and gangs, as prohibition always is. Drug addicts should be dealt with like alcoholics; we don't lock alcoholics in cages. At any rate, Ron Paul would just allow the states to decide their drug laws. Why is that so problematic?

You don't care about constitutionalism? You don't care about the rule of law?

Have you actually looked into any of these issues. They're rather important and, unfortunately, most people just buy into whatever the established media says about the them. Don't watch the TV news; it's job is to manufacture reality.

He's not as slick as some of the waxworks on stage with him but unsure of his views? I can't imagine how you get that impression. He's be defending his views with almost absolute consistency for over 35 years, even when it hurt him politically. As opposed the flip-floppers he's running against, who have no theory and no practice other than to acquire power.

That's just the problem. In a free society, the most important job of the president is to be sure to leave people alone so they can be free.

 

What do you base this statement on? He's been in Congress for a couple of decades, won 12 (I think) elections. The repub party wouldn't waste money on him if he refused to bend on any view.

Again, you've offered nothing on which to base this, yet you state it as if it is fact.

 

I used to like Ron Paul until I came into contact with some of his supporters .

In a word , I believe " NUTS " is sufficient to convey my feelings.

 

All politicians have supporters who are nuts.

 

You don't get to pick your stalkers.

 

The media will attempt to destroy and discredit him, Bachman and any other Republican candidate they have not vetted as meeting their criterea.

 

How on earth did you vote?

Jesus we really need to fix these loopholes that allow illegal aliens to vote.

 

Who's gonna vote a guy as President with a candy bar name.

 

You're not alone in that opinion.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/m...corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier

 

Food is valuable intrinsically, on its own, without any subjective input from human speculators, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO LIVE. Gold does not do that, it has no intrinsic value.
Now that that is settled, lets move on.

 

More food of course, I have no use for a watch, of diamonds or gold, or platinum.

 

As I requested, what is the objective value of food? You ought to be able to tell us, as you assert that it is intrinsic.

All value is subjective because it comes only from each human individual who decides what he will trade or do in order to get that good which he (or she) values.

Now you're just trying to dodge.

 

You have no use for more food you can ever store or eat either. But, you know what, maybe you do? Maybe that's your personal preference, crazy as it seems to me, to have a mountain of rotting food you'll never eat. But other people have different preferences. Stop pretending your own preferences are objective and not subjective.

 

What if I don't want to live? Does it still have value to me?

 

The ignorance of some related to the commercial uses of gold is sometimes amazing.

http://geology.com/minerals/gold/uses-of-gold.shtml

Intrinsic value is directly related to the ability to use something. While gold is not food it is the most useful of all minerals on Earth which makes it intrinsically valuable. To cite a well known phrase, "Man does not live by bread alone."

 

Yes, it is all just a ploy of his to act and vote for the dismantle of oppressive laws just so one day maybe the rest of his "off the wall" ideas would get him elected to be president. Some how I think it is you that is the conspiracy theorist.

Maybe we could do it like every other country in the world, have people stationed at UN or NATO bases only, and send troops when they are needed to uphold our treaties when asked.

A lock of understanding on your part is not proof of what he has planned. He has explained his plans, unlike certain POTUS that says he will reveal his plan in Sept.