Poll: Ron Paul in third with 14% nationally

Do we have that much time? How far can America go down the crapper before we reach the point of no return? I think this next election cycle is the most important one in my lifetime. It's not just about the President, either. Remember there is a House and 1/3 of the Senate to elect, too.

 

The Central Bankers can trigger the collapse any time they want... it has always been my assumption that they would trigger it during a "conservative" Republican administration for vilification purposes.

That said, our currency, economy, and world markets have been sufficiently destabalized now to the point where they could trigger the collapse tomorrow if they wanted.

My guess for the past few years now has been in the 5-10 year window from now, i.e. 2016-2021; but as I said I think they have the flexibility to trigger it any time they want.

As for any "liberty movement"... the media will labal anyone who speaks out against the loss of our sovreignty and freedom as a "radical" and "extremist" (of course); and that will be conjoined with all manner of social sanction - most punatively related to employment I'd imagine. If you can't feed your family - you'll likely shut up.

Liberty certainly isn't in our future.

 

I think the "liberty movement" and the "campaign for liberty" was after the tea party movement. Which arose from Paul's supporters.

http://trutherator.wordpress.com/20...omb-on-the-2007-boston-tea-party-anniversary/

 

The day Ron Paul wins is the day I rush myself and my family out of this country for fear of my life and financial security.

 

Might want to have a few bags packed, just in case. See ya'.

 

Thankfully he still has no chance. If he doesn't lose the primaries he'll lose the general election. The guy's backwards policies are just too easy a target. He'd be destroyed.

 

I'm an anarchist. Its going to fail one way or another, history proves government does not work. It really don't matter to me when it happens. People want leaders so government, in some form, will probably always be with us. I have accepted that.

The best we can hope for is when it fails this time something better will be built from the ruble.

 

Danneskold,
The YAL and C4L *were* the Ron Paul campaign. They came into existence the very day Ron Paul dropped out of the race. You are correct that they directly created the TEA Party, though as the TEA Party evolved and grew it's focus (necessarily) became more centered on fiscal conservatism than individual liberty.
Of course, the RLC predates all the others.
Regards,
-Slashy

 

With strong support among Independents and an 'anyone but Obama' attitude in the country, don't be too sure. If, by 'backwards', you mean adhering to the Constitution, ok, I get it.

 

You probably should, if you don't have any real assets.

If he gets his way, for people who refuse to lower their standard of living, things will be hard. People might starve. But if we stick with it things will also get better.

 

..from the ruble? Is that a Freudian slip? You sure you're an anarchist?

If you're an anarchist, you should object least to a form of government that is the least invasive in our lives. Of course, that demands personal responsibility on our part.

 

He seems to handle himself fine in debates if he's that easy to destroy

 

Woogs,
If anything, the House and Senate are of paramount importance this cycle. The Presidency, less-so. What's *really* important is the continuation of takeovers at the State level and party organization.
And yeah, we have enough time. We simply can't afford to waste the opportunity that has been presented by taking the WH when we're not yet in a position to use it effectively.
Things are going to be bad over the next 4 years. *extremely* bad. We don't want to be the lightning rod, but rather the answer. When the People entrust us with the authority to turn this around, we've got to be capable of actually doing it.
/my $0.02

 

I do.

I hope for that. That's the path to freedom.

But I also realize if the county falls apart, there will be elements in the country that want to take control. The people, individually, will have 2 choices, fend for themselves and fight off the potently stronger power or submit.

 

Meh. Nobody's gonna round you up and shoot you. Unlike the lefties, we believe in your right to believe and say whatever you want. But you might want to pack those bags anyway, because when the dollar collapses Michigan is going to be uninhabitable.

 

I believe he's referring to your mis-spelling of the word "rubble". "Ruble" is the basic unit of currency in Russia. Obviously a mis-spelling rather than any intent on your part. Let's not get side-tracked by that pathetic red herring.
Regards,
-Slashy

 

lol, ohhh.

to woogs -

There are 26 letters in the alphabet, I can do whatever I want with them.

 

I agree with this. A Ron Paul in the White House will do nothing if we still have a Congress full of corporatists. I'm confident in further swings in the House, with some but less in the Senate. I do feel that many of Ron Paul's ideas will make through the election, whether he does or not.

I'm an optimist at this point. I have to be...it's either that or despair. I won't abandon Ron Paul because support for the man now will translate into change, no matter who warms the seat, so long as it's not Obama.

 

Yes you can. Fele Reef to do as you please. That's the great thing about Freedom, and Anarchy (I suppose).

Actually, I was just kidding a little. No need for anyone to get bent out of shape. I know what a typo is.

 

I'm not scared of Ron Paul rounding me up and shooting me. Ron Paul is a sweet old man who wouldn't hurt a fly. I'm scared of the looters and rioters that will result from him cutting all forms of welfare rounding me up and shooting me.

 

I understand completely, see it works.

 

Your assumption that he wants that to happen is incorrect. He wants to create an environment where we no longer need it.

 

So is everyone else.

 

Untrue dependency is control. People want control.

If even one representative has bad intentions the system fails for someone else.

 

He wants to phase it out and it actually keep the Program which has people dependent currently not insolvent. Running a massive debt/inflation never helps to correct the problems...