Polling Data Show Americans Are Less Persuaded That Climate Change Is Anthropogenic

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is quite an interesting result. Despite near non-stop alarmist warnings about climate change caused by human activities, Americans have become less inclined to believe human activity is the cause. Why did this happen?

    Americans’ Beliefs on Climate Change Causes Shift: Survey Insights
    Charles Rotter
    For independents, the decline was even steeper: from 61% in 2018 to 42% in 2023.

    A survey from April of this year has surfaced some intriguing shifts in American attitudes toward climate change, particularly regarding its causes. The survey, executed by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and funded by the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago, reveals a notable decrease in the number of Americans who attribute climate change primarily to human activities.

    The survey’s findings are quite stark:

    “Though three-quarters of Americans believe climate change is happening, only 49% say it’s mostly or entirely precipitated by human activity — an 11% drop since 2018.”

    This decline suggests a growing skepticism or perhaps a more nuanced understanding of the factors contributing to climate change.

    The change in belief is more pronounced among certain political demographics. The survey details,

    “In 2018, 72% of Democrats said climate change is mostly or entirely a result of human activities; in 2023, that figure fell to 60%. For independents, the decline was even steeper: from 61% in 2018 to 42% in 2023.”

    This could reflect a broader questioning of the narrative that has dominated climate change discussions for years. . . . .
     
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    The Climate Cult is Anti-Human, and folks are catching on.

    'There is a faction of the Left that is a death cult.'

    'Abortion. Gender ideology, which includes sterilization. Climate hysteria, which requires a dramatic reduction in population. Medical murder. Closing farms. You name it, and death is connected to it in some way. There is even a movement pushing voluntary human extinction.'

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    'think of how hard the Left works to save some obscure minor variant of a bug or lizard, spending billions of dollars to save a snail darter or an owl variant. Yet, when it comes to the human race, well, who cares? Wouldn’t the snail darter be better off if we disappeared?'
     
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    It appears that the survey did not include post- La Niña, whereby 2023 end up being the hottest year on record.
     
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    Because people are stupid.
     
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    It occurs to me that there can only be two schools of thought on the subject of humanities role here: Either you believe the resources of the earth were put here for the benefit of humanity, or you believe humanity is an infestation.

    The only reason we have made it this far is because nothing else has been smart enough to kill us off. I wonder which side of that equation AI will choose and, assuming the latter, what AI will think needs to be done about it.
     
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    But to pretend that caused by people in the US or the Western world is absurd have you ever seen picture of say xingdong on a clear sunny day and the sky's yellow?

    You know people about Trump putting our country into dire straits will do nothing you have to control China and India. The more you cripple the US and Europe the stronger and more pollution China India and that matter Russia make. They don't care about this.
     
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    Um nope, wrong.
     
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    It's because of the psychological phenomenon of recency bias.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recency_bias

    People have the tendency to believe that life will continue in the way it has been in the recent past. Therefore, if they haven't seen climate change cause any serious problems in their own lives in the recent past, they start believing that climate change is bunk.

    Of course, people also LOVE driving their gas guzzling SUVs back and forth from work, mostly inhabited by a single driver, and they have to justify to themselves that this is actually not bad, but rather okay.
     
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    It beat 2017 by a quarter of a degree F. I other words, 2017, six years ago, was nearly as hot.
     
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    Or maybe they're following the science.
    “The Arrhenius type greenhouse effect of the CO2 and other non-condensing GHGs is an incorrect hypothesis and the CO2 greenhouse effect based global warming hypothesis is also an artifact without any theoretical or empirical footing.”

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    Or maybe the science is on their side.
    “The Arrhenius type greenhouse effect of the CO2 and other non-condensing GHGs is an incorrect hypothesis and the CO2 greenhouse effect based global warming hypothesis is also an artifact without any theoretical or empirical footing.”

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    The arrogant refusal to take responsibility for anthropogenic climate change is peculiar to a residue of hardcore ideologues.


    The science deniers adhere tenaciously to their dogma, contemptuous of scientific data and the consensus of experts, even as the evidence that continues to accrue is irrefutable.

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    Science says otherwise. Please see the linked research in #11.
     
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    Actually, it doesn't.

    The luxury of science denial is not an option. The predictions of climatologists based upon scientific data are being confirmed, and the indulgence of ignorance bears far too high a cost.



    ... The 2022 National Ocean Service Technical Report – a joint effort between several government agencies, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NASA, Homeland Security, FEMA and the Defense Department – found that sea levels are expected to rise up to a foot in the next 30 years with more flood damage, seen in more inland areas and, by 2050, happen up to 10 times more often than it does even today.

     
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    But the cause is not anthropogenic.
    “The Arrhenius type greenhouse effect of the CO2 and other non-condensing GHGs is an incorrect hypothesis and the CO2 greenhouse effect based global warming hypothesis is also an artifact without any theoretical or empirical footing.”
     
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    That is because Americans have been sucked in by the Faux rubbish. Europe believes, Australia believes, India and most of Asia believes and as for the Pacific Islanders - they are asking Australia to rehome some of them so yes they definitely believe.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_on_climate_change#:~:text=Studies from 2019–2021 found,five threats in the survey.

    It is global warming not North American politics :roll:
     
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    all of the popular "climate people" don't practice what they preach and have a DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO attitude about global warming so I don't think you should be surprised it isn't taken seriously in the mainstream.
    Gee I wonder how much private jet fuel was used all added up for these big shots to attend climate conferences.
    We can't even get people to do one simple thing like give up plastic bottles or even to use them less.
     
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    And yet the science says otherwise. Please see the link in #11.
    “The Arrhenius type greenhouse effect of the CO2 and other non-condensing GHGs is an incorrect hypothesis and the CO2 greenhouse effect based global warming hypothesis is also an artifact without any theoretical or empirical footing.”
     
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    Now that their denying climate change has become so clearly irrational, they're trying to foist the blame elsewhere.

    The biggest influence on the planet's changing climate is the release of emissions into the atmosphere from burning oil, gas and coal to move people and goods from place to place and to create energy, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

    Here's how that works:

      • Carbon dioxide and other naturally occurring gases have always existed in the atmosphere, keeping the world warm just as a greenhouse keeps tropical plants alive in the winter. Scientists see that "greenhouse effect" in ice cores, sediments and tree rings.
      • Modern day measurements show CO2 emissions are rising. Since 1958, the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere measured at the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii has grown from 316 parts per million to 417 parts per million.
      • Measured in such small amounts, the change might seem minuscule. However, because CO2 has risen by more than 30% percent, NASA and other say the changes are having an out-sized impact on global average temperatures.
      • National and international studies document how excess carbon dioxide traps excess energy and causes the planet to get hotter faster.
    Scientists know that the warming climate is caused by human activities because:
    • They understand how heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide work in the atmosphere
    • They know why those gases are increasing in the atmosphere
    • They have ruled out other possible explanations
    Human activities have increased the abundance of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere. This increase is mostly due to burning fossil fuels, such as coal, oil, and natural gas. Carbon dioxide has increased from a pre-industrial level of 280 parts per million to more than 410 parts per million today. Most of the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has occurred since the late 1950s. In Earth’s distant past, it would take between 5,000 to 20,000 years to see the amount of change in carbon dioxide levels that humans have caused in just the last 60 years.

     
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    Or, the 3rd choice, we're simply a living entity as committed to our survival as any other. This deathcult bunch do seem to view us as a pathogen to be destroyed.

    I view AI as massively overrated.
     
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    That is precisely what the science contradicts.
     
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    If you respect the consensus of climatologists and the considerable, corroborative body of data they have accrued, you'll be fine.
     
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    I respect peer-reviewed research results.
     
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    Sad to see literacy fall that far.
     
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