Pornography & prostitution must be Destroyed Forever

Defending freedom almost never means defending something beautiful.

It almost always means defending something you don't agree with, out of principle.

 

Thanks!

You make a good point. Although we could argue that porn is also inevitably accessible to the youth as well here in the era of free online materials, whether legally or otherwise. But I concede your point that the types of media you're speaking of are more accessible to the youth because they are deemed more socially acceptable.

 

Why is it so difficult to bear true witness to our Constitution, simply for the sake of morals? We even have a McCarthy era phrase in our pledge to help out.

 

I'm sorry but I can't get past this point. You think people have a right to view kiddie porn. That's pretty much negating for me anything else you have to say.

It would be nice to be able to have a discussion but this is one area that I just can't/won't debate, using children for your sexual pleasure, or watching someone else do it and walking on by is beyond the pale. I haven't put anyone on ignore here but anyone that would blithely say "Hey, it's not my taste but if YOU want to watch kiddie porn it's your right" doesn't have anything to say I want to hear.

 

we'll have to agree to disagree that aping the worst stereotypes men have about women is 'liberating'.

Sad you won't see men talkign about being a whore as being such a great career...they view themselves as capable of making a living on their own feet.

Too bad more women don't.

 

I should have written that better, you're correct. I should have written, "It's a persons right to choose to view media that involves anything not breaking any felony laws." Which I believe should include murder videos, armed robberies, etc etc. I see no reason for people to view these incidents for similar reasons as the kiddie porn issue, it offends victims.

Now if you can find an 18 year old who looks younger than 18 but is a consenting adult who fully understands what they're getting into I don't mind her pretending in a scene that she's a high school student. Not my paticular favorite, but there is no victim and therefore I don't have an issue with it - this logic rings true with any fetish you can find so long as they are done by consenting ADULTS in a CONTROLLED environment by a company regulated by the industry standards.

If you read the whole thing, I covered this issue later in my post.. I think you got to that point and stopped though judging by your reply. There is no debate here, I agree kiddie porn is wrong and should not be viewed, perhaps I should have stuck in in bold at the start of my post.

Edit: I went back and reread your post, I was guilty of not reading entirely too, I was adressing your issue with porn becoming more persuasive and thought you continued on with an objection to it becoming more mainstream. My reply to that paragraph in context does seem like it might back kiddy porn, which I do not, as I adress fully later in the same post in reply to a later paragraph.

 

wow that is the worst Strawman I have seen all day, that takes skill, or lack of logical thought.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman

 

You have a source for this statement?

 

I wouldn't mind wiping our world prostitution and pornography, but a war on those things would be even less effective than the wars on drugs or terrorism.

 

Are you having trouble getting sex without having to pay for it?

 

This is the evasive, straw-man argument which always arises when people cannot defend criminalization of prostitution.

It has nothing to do with whether one wants to pay for sex but whether or not people should have the right to do so. For the record I have never directly exchanged payments for sex and have no intention of ever doing so. ( if I'm still single at 65 or 70 who knows?)

Having said all of that it is absurd to make prostitution illegal and nothing more than a thinly veiled effort to engage in social control dictating to others how they live. Women have the right to engage in whatever sex they wish with other consenting adults, unless it is based on some sort of financial trade, and this is ridiculous hypocrisy.

Shouldn't a woman have the right to choose who to have sex with even if in exchange for money? After all it is her body isn't it? Furthermore how are we protecting or helping such women by making them criminals. BTW what about the same argument as applies to men? Granted female prostitutes are more common but there are some men who sell sexual favors.

 

I bet you like music, you can hum it for free.. but I also bet you still buy CD's because you want some professional input (creativity) or a more professional performance. Do you go to concerts, same premise.

 

I wouldn't mind giving cute chicks full body massages with happy endings; simply for the sake of gender relations.

 

.... free love, even if charged for, is OK.

Is God dead in America?

Or is he just being realistic and turning a blind eye?

 

What's God got to do with it?

Love is always free, sex not so much.

 

In government yes, because politicians do not own the people they sell out. they and their families should all be destroyed if you ask me.

 

Are you saying that if I buy a CD, the musicians are prostitutes?

 

There's your strawman argument. FOTM is, the vast majority of prostitutes are in the trade because they have to eat and support other habits. There is no free market right to earn a living exchange in terms of a willing buyer and a willing seller.

 

So what's your arguement then?

There is a free market right to earn a living doing that through pornography, earnings are taxed and workers are free to change professions whenever they like. Regulation and decriminization of prostitution will lead to similar working conditions.


And yes, I think musicans are just prostitutes as well, they could perform their work privately for you for free to make you feel good but instead they sell out to the industry for money. Do you think that they want to be on the road/in the studio for months at a time? no they need to eat and support their other habits.

If you remove the procreation part of sex it becomes simply another activity in which professionals can perform for their audiences. The only thing that differentiates this is the procreation part, the fact that it is an individuals body is irrelevant otherwise tattooing, plastic surgury and other invasive procedures would be dealt with similarly. And I see no problem with professionals of any trade or activity being paid for their services or performances

 

I believe I could be more holy and more moral by praying for true love and performing true love rituals at a temple dedicated to a goddess of Love even if it requires a tithe.

 

surely he is not comparing the artists that make music with 'actors' in a porn film? have you SEEN some of these people? what's his name, Jeremy something, he was on Celeb Rehab one time...fat, swarthy, sweaty looking UGLY man with a horrible filthy mouth and no manners...

I think it takes a WEE bit more talent to be a singer than to get on all fours and fake moaning.

 

hello..

take a look at one of these 'liberated women' that are pulling down $10000 a night!




boy she looks happy and fulfilled, doesn't she?



I bet she gets up every day just CHOMPING at the bit to get to work!



the bloom on her cheeks shows how healthy and contented she is!

ain't prostitution a great thing? sooooo liberating, these women are the very pinnacle of what women have fought so hard for!

NOT

 

Want me to post a bunch of musicians mugshots that have been caused by drug abuse? I really could, or how about hollywood actors? Professional Athletes?

If you want a debate I'm happy to give you one, but if you can't disassociate drug use with legitimate porn industry or legalized prostitution then we can't have that debate.

Drug use is prevelant among common prostitutes because of a vast array of societal issues. More factual to say that prositution is prevelant among drug users because they lack the consistant motors skills to be employed in a legitimate business. Because prostitution isn't a legitimate business it is left largely to those willing to take the risks for the rewards, which brings the underclass of drug users to the one industry that isn't regulated and is illegal and therefore they are suited to. If you legalize prostitution then Johns who are going to these women currently can go to a regulated brothel where drug tests are mandatory and therefore eliminate alot of the issue.

 

Religion has hurt, killed, and destroyed more than porn and prostitution could ever hope to. Should we destroy all religions too?

Nah, just like we shouldn't 'destroy' porn. Live and let live. So long as those participating in the videos and acts are at least 18, who cares?

 

Everyone has to have a job to eat that is true. What habits do you refer to?

No it is an argument you run from not a straw man argument. Most prostitutes are not street walkers who have made bad choices and are being abused due to lack of options. Most work in brothels or for escort services and made a mature choice to do so.

Once again should they not have this right?

Of course there is a right to earn a living through exchange of services and there should be.