Positive effects of Global Warming?

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point where Gaar claims anything about Ma and PAL and or 16±4xPAL?

2. point me back where you were asking your question 1, so I'd try to understand how did happen that I did not answer it.

 

Point me to the place where I claimed he did.

I asked the question here:
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-33.html#post1060931174

And you claimed the answer was yes, here:
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-33.html#post1060934124

But then you refused to back up your answer,
here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-34.html#post1060936839
here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-34.html#post1060937258
here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-34.html#post1060937631
here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-35.html#post1060937751
and here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-35.html#post1060938067

I specified my exact criteria here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-35.html#post1060938438

which you failed to meet here
http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-35.html#post1060941170

Does that refresh your memory?

Now back to the original question, which you still have not answered:

Do you have any peer-reviewed original proxy data that shows high CO2 concentrations specifically during the late Ordovician glaciation?

YES or NO?

 

1. I'll take you word that you did not. Just confirm that you did not and are not doing.


2. Please show me one just one place where you asked your question 1, so I could see why I did not type 2 letters to answer it. It is also will be easy for a reader to see. Neither the reader nor I will read all long posts to find your question 1. Just quote it and post one link.

 

lol, how dishonest can you get.....All inquisitor does is ask silly questions and finally when he is asked something pertinent he deflects by asking more nonsensical and irrelevant questions. Can you say owned?

 

Bolded red are some insults

Yes, I can.

If you don't mind not asking questions which have no relation to the subject and have an easy answer.

I am not asking to stop insults, just if you can try to insert answers to my points and questions before, after or between insults.


Reposting:

1. I'll take you word that you did not. Just confirm that you did not and are not doing.


2. Please show me one just one place where you asked your question 1, so I could see why I did not type 2 letters to answer it. It is also will be easy for a reader to see. Neither the reader nor I will read all long posts to find your question 1. Just quote it and post one link.

 

Rest removed to prevent inquisitor from dragging another thread into an inane, off-topic argument.

Huh? PD just answered that. I'm not trying to be insulting, but you don't seem capable of basic reading comprehension. I seriously suggest brushing up on this before trying to engage people in discussion as it will only lead to further confusion and embarrassment for you if you persist.

 

I appologize to PD for taking Lepper for him.


I did not mean to feed a troll. Beaten everywhere else he came just to flamebite and insult.

PD may join Lepper, that will be typical and will prove my point I will requote.

DP may silence away and thus delegate his voice to Lepper.

But so far I cannot say he has done that. I'll wait.

 

So are you going to stop deflecting and answer the question?

 

I asked it the first time here:
"In fact, since the Hirnantian glaciation lasted less than a million years, do you have any reference at all for paleo-CO2 levels that hits that tiny window?"

I asked the second time here:
"Do you have any peer-reviewed original proxy data that shows high CO2 concentrations specifically during the late Ordovician glaciation? YES or NO?"

I asked the third time here.

In this post, you said:
"if I don't [post such a reference] I will not only accept that I've lost but I will also accept and appollogize for bluffing, bullying and etc."

We're still waiting for your apology for bluffing and bullying.

 

I have been asking quote the question 1 and post one link to it.

Not 2, not 3 not 10 but just one link to the post where you asked your question 1.

Should I remind it to you?

http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-40.html#post1060962827

This is what you called your question 1 asking it the 1st time.

I galnced through your 1st link and did not find this question. It is not there. You had never posted it when you stated – “back to my own question 1”

One cannot get back to something which never existed.

One does not need to look back to see that you had never posted question 1 when you stated “back to my question.”
One can see that you cannot post a link to any post back before you asked this question the 1st time.

You cannot.

You and Lepper nave been trying to deceive the honest public saying “ back to my own question 1.”

All you and all other warmists have been doing is lying, perverting and deceiving the honest public.


Either quote your question 1 and post one link ( just one link will be enough to it ) or accept that you had never asked question 1. when you stated “back to my own question 1“ and apologize.

 

Man is able to survive rising telperatures much better than lower ones...

If an Ice Age copmes, many more Humans will die than if we go a bit more Tropical.

If Man is able to affect the temperatures, even a little, it would be in his best interest to see them stay above freezing.

 

The Russian heat wave in 2010 killed 56,000 people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_natural_disasters_by_death_toll

The European heat wave in 2003 killed over 40,000

Got any stats worse than that?

 

You keep on posting scabies. When it is shown that your scabies are fake http://www.politicalforum.com/scien...effects-global-warming-25.html#post1060891770 , you post them again. http://www.politicalforum.com/science-technology/227952-positive-effects-global-warming-32.html And again. And again. Endlessly. This is the stats.

No Russian source confirm the bogus statement. Not even the Russian wiki.
What did happen:


According the Chief of http://www.pogoda.ru.net/news/5184/ (Government, weather and climate) the last time such heat approximately 1000 years ago


By the end of June, 1,244 people had drowned in Russia after swimming, often while drunk

And many other things.

Your source is traced to http://specnaz.ru/

I am serious.

You cannot hurt specnaz ,even if you put it in hell.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eow6i_lnwKQ"]specnaz show - YouTube[/ame]

 

If an Ice Age came and sudenly we have only 10% of the land that once was able to grow food, how many do you think would die?

 

Sorry - but what is going to cause an ice age in our life time?

"If wishes were horses beggars would ride"

 

And you think a < 1 degree rise in temp during our lifetime is devastating?

Thanks for putting things into perspective.

 

Thanks for the deflection

Man has already lived through ice ages

What we have yet to live through is change that over a short period of time

 

So far after 2 months warmists has shown no negative effect of the fictional global warming observed.

Only the same scabies and drunks drown after swimming in hot weather [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxGSzVgVds&feature=related"]Moscow Summer 2010 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSvp0d_-QXE&feature=related"]MOSCOW in heatwave - YouTube[/ame]

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Man can also live through mild warming by golly. So you think that a < 1 degree rise over the last 100 years is devastating? How long do you think you will live?

 

So now you are only concerned with 'your lifetime'?

Why am I not surprised.

 

We have... in VERY small numbers.

How do you suppose 7 BILLION of us would handle it.

And what about the population level once it does come about.

Again, I believe we would do much better using resources to help us understand how we can adapt to such changes and not think we can stop them.

 

Actually, we are in fact "living" through it right now, and in the greatest numbers the World has ever seen.

Why is that you suppose?

 

And yet another strawman.
Let me break it down.

Yes, the temperature has been warmer. The plants and animals were adapted to that warm temperature.
Yes, the temperature has been cooler. The plants and animals were adapted to that cool temperature.
Climatologists are worried about climate change. Plants and animals do not have time to adapt to a sudden rise or decrease in temperature. Plants and animals do not have time to adapt to a sudden change in regional precipitation.
So it is irrelevant if a warmer climate is better than a colder climate because, once again, it is the sudden change in climate that is problematic.

Got it now?

Because the climate has been relatively stable for 10,000 years. A stable climate allows plants and animals to adapt to the environment, thus thriving. A changing climate does not give plants and animals time to adapt, leading to extinction.

It seem the only thing deniers have left is to create strawmen arguments.

 

We and the animals actually have been adapting... How do you suppose there are 7+ Billion of us now? You think we would have such numbers if we hadn't adapted?

As for the "stable climate" you suggest, try telling that to those who lived through the little Ice Age just 550 - 800 years ago...

That falls within 10,000 years, right?

Was that "broken down" enough for you?

Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with. MOD EDIT: I DELETED THE PART THAT DID NOT PROMOTE RESPECTFUL DEBATE

 

Do you seriously think Mannie meant a 'sudden change' that has been happening since the beginning of mankind ? You seem to have missed the point entirely.