"Poverty in America"... mostly rhetoric

Yeah, they should have just exercised some 'personal responsibility', eh Dano? That old cure-all of the American right. Why don't you tell us what it was like 'in your day'.

 

Do you give that stock righty answer to a mentally disabled orphan? Get up off your butt and accept some personal responsibility, Ruprect.

Why does he have a cork on his fork?

 

Well, our Founding Fathers did Ordain and Establish our federal form of Government for us.

Promoting and providing for the general welfare and common defense are sovereign powers of the People, delegated to the general government for its faithful execution via that institutional means.

Why do you object to actually solving poverty instead of simply waging a war on poverty? In my opinion, the public sector should provide for the general welfare on a macroeconomic level instead of a microeconomic level whenever possible; even if only to avoid the perception of pandering to any given constituency. Public sector intervention in the market for labor could be effected in such a manner by simply solving for a natural unemployment rate and the poverty that is usually associated with a lack of income in any money based, market economy.

 

I trust your response was directed at Dan40 and not me?

 

No, the military does NOT require a HS diploma. I should know. I served in the army and I did not have a HS diploma.

 

Yup, sorry for any confusion.

Skimming will be the death of me

 

You seem unaware that homeless people get most of their clothes from donations. People do not donate badly worn clothes so of course they look good. They eat at soup kitchens so they are fairly well nourished. I guess you won't be satisfied unless they have distended bellies from disease and flies buzzing around. Sheesh! Educate yourself on this topic, buddy!

 

Ignorance is bliss, Dan. Go ahead and put me on ignore, too. That's what people do who can't compete in a debate.

 

They are specifically THE measure of personal wealth along with whatever cash holdings you may have, when learn that get back to me. Have you never calculated your net worth?

They can also be a measure of disposable income, think about that too.

 

OK so what?

OK so what?

Why do you ask fallacious questions?

What do you object to solving poverty and instead support just moving the bar higher and higher so that the term itself no longer truly reflects poverty.

Have at it, there are thousands of charities to you contribute to to help the poor and organizations you can volunteer to work for.

 

I did not say personal belongs ALONG WITH THESE OTHER THINGS are not a measure of wealth. I said personal belongings (BY THEMSELVES) are not a measure of wealth. Now I will agree that if your the Royal Family and can include the Crown FREAKING Jewels as part of your personal belongings, I suppose you are right that is wealth.

I am talking about NORMAL people here, clothes, TV/TVs, video game systems, knickknacks, etc etc are not going to add up to much more than a middle of the road used car in value AT BEST.

Now take that put it in your pipe with that condescending attitude of yours and SMOKE IT!!!

 

lol... nice

 

Start posting like a second grader that just found crayons and I'll happily put you on ignore. To pay any attention to the musings of idiots WOULD make me ignorant. When I have seen a person post the entirety of their miniscule knowledge, why would I bother rereading it?

Do you read every post on this forum? I certainly don't and I have only a few total numbskulls on ignore.

 

Yeah it's pretty simple

Stay in School.
Get a Job.
Get Married.
Don't Have Children Out of Wedlock.

Conclusion
Poverty is most often a consequence of specific behavior. By engaging in other behaviors, people can avoid poverty. To help people escape poverty, government programs should encourage these behaviors. The 1996 welfare reforms encouraged work - and the rate of poverty fell. Proposals to encourage marriage, like President Bush's plan to eliminate the marriage penalty, could have similar benefits.

You can read more here http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba428

OH and don't engage in criminal activity.

 

Your personal belongs, you cash, your equities and securities, your real properties, your personal property minus your debts and obligations ALL make up your personal wealth.

All of those measure your personal wealth and also demonstrate how much disposable income you have.

 

I wish it was that simple, but too many people aren't afforded the same circumstances as others when it comes to how they're raised and the people who surround them as they grow up.

 

AGAIN I am not talking about all those things I am talking SPECIFICALLY about personal belongings, and they aren't wealth (in all but the most extreme cases).

 

AGAIN personal belongings are part of a persons PERSONAL WEALTH.

 

It is that simple, do those things and chance of you being in poverty are practicable niltch.

 

I am not sure why you would have a problem with our federal Congress or our State legislators establishing Standards for the Union and each of the several States. As public acts, it would reflect a Standard of poverty in our republic.

 

Well I guess if he is going to insult my use of crayons from behind
his IGNORE button then I suppose I am entitled the a responce
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Said True R.P.McMurphy
- "Dano" truly revels in the IGNORANCE & COWARDICE of his Bliss

The guy is an empty shoe, a shallow puddle, a vacant lot, of a man
................. who scurries & runs away from every Serious challenge

A hollow stump
Who can but cast his poo from what he Stupidly believes to be a safe distance
....................................not realizing that his INSULTS may be returned 10 fold

Not realizing that he is Pulled apart, dissected & used brutally in absentia
.............& is thus EXPOSED & made to look the Yellow Dog & FL

It is so much easier to Punt a ball whos head is so firmly placed in & up the IGNORE button

.

 

ROFL government set standards have been the subject of debate and controversy since government first started setting them.

So are you just interested in discussing the process or the results?

 

The general government of the Union has already established and promulgated Standards regarding Poverty for the Union. I am willing to give full faith and credit to those metrics, simply for the sake of argument.

 

Sorry if this video is a re-post, I thought it to be relevant... and there is no way I'm looking through 50+ pages to check.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Pajamasmedia?v=OkebmhTQN-4&feature=pyv&ad=13894438424&kw=obama

 

It needed to be reposted.

Back in the 80's under similar circumstances and discussions about "the poor" Heritage posted a study that showed the average "poor household" at the time spent more money than that average middle class family on the 60's earned. As the speaker in this video states, we have the richest poor in the history of the world. In what other country do the poor eat themselves to death?