Powerful New Clinton Ad Nails The Impact Of Trump's Vile Behavior-

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    There is no evidence of sexism.

    Stating that child care is woman's work may be over simplistic an insulting to some but in fact is accurate to a degree[/QUOTE]
    A man who never changes a diaper or push a stroller and who denigrates men who do, rationalizing that only women should have to do that, is indeed sexist.
     
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    A man who never changes a diaper or push a stroller and who denigrates men who do, rationalizing that only women should have to do that, is indeed sexist.[/QUOTE]

    He did not say that only women should but implied that they are better at it which is reasonable
     
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    1. All of the ad was out-of-context.
    2. It was a slimeball ad put out by a slimeball candidate.
     
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    You can't quote me in a post where I call any single poll accurate.You cannot seem to grasp a first year political science concept. That being on how the weighting of polls affect the end result. Only a idiot or a paid shill would think hillary will meet or beat Obama turnout numbers this year .However here is how they are weighting them


    here is a good example of how the polls are being weighted. It weighted for a 45% Dems 37% GOP turnout, see question See page 47 question pd1

    http://ap-gfkpoll.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/September-2016-AP-GfK-Poll-Topline-Clinton.pdf

    In comparison in 2008 Obam beat McCain by 7%. However whoever ran this one thinks hillary will pull 8%. All the while ignoring that the number of registered dems is on the decrease and GOP regitratration increasing .....ok sure
     
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    He did not say that only women should but implied that they are better at it which is reasonable[/QUOTE]
    That's a nifty, if bizarre excuse. He said that he wouldn't do those things and he denegrated men who do. Changing a diaper and pushing a stroller are both easy tasks that don't require any sort of superpowered expertise possessed only by women.
     
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    That's a nifty, if bizarre excuse. He said that he wouldn't do those things and he denegrated men who do. Changing a diaper and pushing a stroller are both easy tasks that don't require any sort of superpowered expertise possessed only by women.[/QUOTE]

    HE said no such thing.

    He said it was woman's work and traditionally it is.

    This is why professional child care is largely dominated by women. They are better at it and more women choose such work than men.

    Nothing wrong with this observation even if he was short and simplistic about it.
     
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    Hills must be so proud of you! Every day you keep slinging away hoping that something will stick. No one cares about Hillary's ads. She is just wasting money, but it's not hers, so what does she care? Sorry, clinton is TOTALLY DAMAGED goods. Only the 'bots will vote for her...
     
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    . . . yes, he did. I love how Trumpeter defenses so frequently consist of rewriting the man's words to make them more palatable.

    Even if that were true, slapping a "tradition" sticker on something doesn't make it any less sexist.

    Except that isn't what he said. He referred to men who perform these basic duties as "[acting] like the wife" because their wives "demand" that they do so. He proudly said that he "won't do anything to take care of [his kids]" (making him a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty father in addition to a sexist).

    And let's not forget about his whole "men are better than women, but a good woman is better than ten good men" brainfart.
     
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    It is true and is not sexist
     
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    It is true that a man will only perform basic childcare duties if his wife demands it, and that doing so means he is "acting like the wife"? And you don't see how that's sexist? I'm sorry to hear you think so poorly of your own gender.
     
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    NO it is true that women are better at it and prefer to do it more than men. That is not sexist.
     
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    Don't worry, they are all just bimbos, especially if her husband raped them.
     
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    And that's not what Trump said. He said that a man doing it is acting like a wife, because of the wife's demands. He never said that women prefer to do it more than men. He said he preferred to never do it at all, identifying it as woman's work. Yes, that is sexist.
     
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    NO I said it and you said if true it is not any less sexist.

    It is not secist at all and quite true
     
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    You can set those goalposts down if they are getting to heavy to keep moving around. My statement was about Trump being sexist, and you are trying to change the subject to yourself.
     
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    NO you did.

    ]I said it you said if true it is still sexist.

    There is no evidence of Trumpo being a sexist
     
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    I've already cited the evidence of Trump being sexist. He identifies childcare as women's work, saying that men who do it are acting like women, and that they are doing so because women demand them to. That's sexist.

    "Men are better than women, but a good woman is better than ten good men." - Sexist.

    You can keep making excuses for him (it seems like that has become a fulltime job for every Trump follower), but those facts still remain.
     
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    No that quote is not sexist it is in fact rather ambiguous.

    No one is making excuses but instead correcting your knee jerk labeling
     
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    Lol, make up your mind. Is it definitively not sexist or is it ambiguous? You can't have it both ways. Any literate and intellectually honest person can see that it is unambiguously sexist. There is nothing "knee jerk" about the simple observation that the statement is sexist.
     
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    If he had insulted one person your point would be valid.
    However that is not the case.
     

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