Pres. Trump Wants Rep. Adam Schiff Arrested For Treason

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you're a Constitutional scholar I can understand why it's a subject you may want to discuss however most of us are not, and that's why debating the Constitution is often folly.

    However, as Jeanette posted, her interest is the lies of Adam Schiff and the seriousness of them all. Others find them serious also but don't need to bring the Constitution into the debate.
     
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    You don't need to be a "Constitutional scholar" to read what the damn thing has to say about treason. It is only like 3 sentences. Please stop pretending this is hard. If you aren't prepared to discussion the Constitution, you are not prepared to discuss treason, PERIOD. It is dishonest to try to pretend this is up for debate. Lying is not treason.

    If you bring treason into the debate, as the OP does, then you are either bringing the Constitution into the debate or you aren't having an honest debate. Glad to know where you stand on that one.
     
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    Nonsense..."treason" is a legal term. Live with it. It's not going to be defined by either Trump, yourself, or Jeanette.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were the Russians given 'Aid and Comfort' to a US political party when they sold the Steele Dossier to the DNC and Hillary Clinton, followed by a phony 'Investigation'? The Country has been in a turmoil ever since, much to the pleasure of Vladimir Putin.

    It has probably led to some Discomfort for the Democrats and their Deep State allies but I doubt any of them will be charged with treason.
     
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    1) The Russians did not sell the Steel Dossier. 2) The Constitution says giving enemies aid and comfort, not another country giving us aid and comfort. 3) Maybe they won't be charged with treason because there are actually people out there willing and able to comprehend what that word means.
     
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    Ah...the Steele Dossier...the Republican red herring.
     
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    Ah, claiming the Steele Dossier was invented by the Russian government, the fringe right red herring.
     
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    Precisely. The reason the Steele Dossier became central to the investigation, from the Republican perspective, is that it could be traced to the Clinton opposition research.
     
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    Is Russia an enemy of the United States, in other words are we at war with them?
     
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    No...but neither are we BFF's.
     
  11. Distraff

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    Then according to the constitution, giving aid and comfort to them isn't treason. We have to be at war with them. If you give aid and comfort to a nation we are at war with, that is treason under the constitution.
     
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    Read the times.
     
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    You not interested in proof , period.
     
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    Yep. Although, there are lesser charges regarding espionage they could be charged with.
     
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    Disgrace is disgrace, in office or out..
    And thank's for proving that all dems care about is vistory and power.
     
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    Do you know what the fincial arrangements were between Christopher Steele and the Russians?
    Do you feel the fake dossier being used by the Democrats and the FBI gave them any Aid in their political campaign against the President?
    That's likely but not entirely out of the question. The Australians are now getting involved with the source of the Russian Hoax.
     
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    How is it a "Red Herring"? Do you know it went in front of the FISA? That's quite a serious issue, and no 'Red Herring'.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who made that claim?
     
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    And be held accountable for it as well.
     
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    Well, all the Republicans who are in charge of nearly everything aren't doing anything about it for some strange reason.
     
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    No...the Steele "Dossier" was actually a series of 13 different reports Steele compiled. I don't know of anyone who claims the entire dossier went into the FISA warrant application. Certainly, the parts concerning Carter Page and his Moscow visits did and appear to have been used to corroborate other intelligence, to secure the warrant. The warrant would have been limited to Page and his contacts. And, since Page subsequently left the campaign it would have led nowhere to the ongoing investigation into the campaign contacts with the Russians. Neither Page or any of the others indicted (with the possible exception of Flynn) were charged with contacts with the Russians rising to the level of conspiracy.
    The "red herring" means the "false trail." The dossier was paid for by the Clinton campaign in their search for opposition research...ergo the beginning of a false narrative that "Clinton did it."
     
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    The Steele dossier was originally commissioned from FUSION GPS an AMERICAN COMPANY by The Washington Free Beacon a right wing publication, to be shopped around to GOP presidential opponents of Dirty Donald during the Republican primaries.
     
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    True...but I believe the Clinton campaign and DNC have acknowledged that they eventually picked up the Fusion GPS contract, after the Republicans dropped it.
     
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    I think he’s a swell guy.
     
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    A Trump fan condemning a guy for appealing to people’s emotions over their intellect.....Priceless!!!!
     

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