President & 1st Lady test POSITIVE for COVID-19

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  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...cs/hope-hicks-positive-coronavirus/index.html

    I just didn't want let those who like to linger in the ELECTIONS Forum be the last to find out.


    CNN)President Donald Trump announced early Friday that he and his wife both tested positive for the coronavirus, an extraordinary development coming months into a global pandemic and in the final stretch of his reelection campaign in which he has flouted experts' guidance on preventing the disease's spread.

    The diagnosis amounts to the most serious known health threat to a sitting American president in decades. At 74 years old and obese, Trump falls into the highest risk category for serious complications from the disease, which has killed more than 200,000 Americans and more than 1 million people worldwide.

    His infection with the disease could prove destabilizing in an already fraught political climate, and stock market futures tumbled on news of Trump's infection.

    Tonight, @FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!" Trump tweeted shortly before 1 a.m. Friday.

    Later, the first lady wrote on Twitter that she and her husband were "feeling good."

    Trump was last seen in public on Thursday afternoon, returning to the White House after a fundraising trip to New Jersey. He did not appear ill, though he did not speak to reporters as he walked into his residence.

    In a memo issued to reporters around 1 a.m. ET, the President's physician, Navy Cmdr. Dr. Sean Conley, wrote that he received confirmation of the positive tests on Thursday evening.

    "The President and First Lady are both well at this time, and they plan to remain at home within the White House during their convalescence," Conley wrote.

    "The White House medical team and I will maintain a vigilant watch, and I appreciate the support provided by some of our country's greatest medical professionals and institutions," Conley wrote, without elaborating what assistance was being provided to the White House.

    "Rest assured I expect the President to continue carrying out his duties without disruption while recovering, and I will keep you updated on any further developments," he wrote...
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/02/coronavirus-covid-live-updates-us/

    Here are some significant developments:
    • Global markets fell Friday morning as the news of President Trump’s positive test compounded uncertainty, one month before the November election.
    • First lady Melania Trump said she and the president were both feeling well, but she did not address whether they had experienced coronavirus symptoms. Vice President Pence said he was praying for the couple. He did not indicate whether he has been tested.
    • World leaders were quick to send well wishes, although some struck a more critical note. French government spokesman Gabriel Attal said Trump’s positive test result was “a sign that the virus spares no one, including those who are the most skeptical about its reality and gravity.”
    • U.S. coronavirus hospitalizations have reached their highest levels since at least May in nine states: Arkansas, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming. At least 7,245,000 cases and 207,000 fatalities have been reported nationwide since February.
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    Thoughts and prayers.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-covid.html?0p19G=6214

    Mr. Trump’s positive test result posed immediate challenges for the future of his campaign against former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic nominee, with barely a month until Election Day. Even if Mr. Trump, 74, remains asymptomatic, he will lose much of his remaining time on the campaign trail. If he becomes sick, it could raise questions about whether he should remain on the ballot at all.

    The White House did not say how long Mr. Trump would have to remain isolated, but it canceled his plans to fly to Florida for a campaign rally on Friday, stripping his public schedule for the day of everything except a midday telephone call “on Covid-19 support to vulnerable seniors.” Appearances at rallies in Wisconsin on Saturday and in Arizona on Monday also appear sure to be scrapped, and the next debate, scheduled for Oct. 15 in Miami, was left up in the air.

    During late-night conversations, aides to Mr. Trump were discussing whether he should give an address to the nation on Friday from the White House or find some other way for him to reassure the public. But the aides were still in a state of shock as they absorbed the news, and there was no immediate word on how far the infection may have spread among senior White House officials, who generally do not wear masks in deference to the president’s disdain for them.
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    Global markets dropped early Friday after President Trump said that he and the first lady had tested positive for the coronavirus.

    European markets opened more than 1 percent lower with some markets recovering slightly as the day went on. Wall Street was set to open sharply lower, according to futures markets, but intense volatility suggested that investors will still be parsing how strongly to react to the news.

    The news injects a huge amount of uncertainty into financial markets, and uncertainty is what investors like least. It throws the political leadership of the world’s largest economy into doubt. It also raises questions about his campaign for re-election against former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., his Democratic challenger. The election is set for Nov. 3, a little more than a month away.

    The market moves early on Friday reflected those jitters. Investors sought to put money in investments that are traditionally considered safe havens.

    Prices rose for United States Treasury bonds, sending yields lower. Gold prices also rose, as did the value of the Japanese yen against other currencies.

    Investments that are more sensitive to economic and policy shifts fell quickly. Oil futures slid on Friday along with stocks, while other commodities fell too.

    In Japan, where the news broke late on the trading day, stocks were nearly 0.7 percent lower after spending most of the day in positive territory. Most other Asian markets were closed for autumn holidays.

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    A huge question mark also lingers over the second presidential debate scheduled for 15 October. Perhaps Trump, if he is well enough, could take part virtually. Perhaps, after what happened on Tuesday, no debate would be a mercy for everyone.

    How will this play politically? If Trump is asymptomatic, there is a danger he could yet again seek to minimise the virus, making the case to his supporters: what’s all the fuss about? But if he becomes seriously ill, perhaps he could benefit from a surge of public sympathy, just as Johnson did.

    Dr Vin Gupta, a pulmonologist and medical contributor to MSNBC, told the network: “The presidential race has been fundamentally altered tonight. There should be no more in-person gatherings for the remainder of this season and I think there’s concern here, if the president remains asymptomatic, that he may use it to tamp down the seriousness of the infection.”
     
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    Here's a thought:
    Best Case Scenario, Trump recovers with a new sense of empathy for others & so finally whips his branch of government into the kind of response we're capable of;

    Worst Case, he emerges unscathed, feeling validated & impenetrable.
     
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    Third option, it’s all a ruse because he’s a lying con man and the worst case scenario still plays out.
     
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    I don't believe that's the case, but then I guess there's something wrong w/ me-- because your post made me laugh. I've seen a post claiming that this was a democratic plot, & an intentional infection by Trump (I suppose for sympathy). Yours is the only one that isn't summarily dismissible. I, honestly, wouldn't put it past him. But don't you think his merely getting infected would weaken his position, until he came through w/ flying colors? It's going to keep him from having rallies for half of the time left between now & the election.

    But what boosts my confidence that this is no sham are all the others close to the Pres. who are testing positive; in fact I just heard that the RNC Chirwoman, Ronna Romney McDaniel just came in w/ a positive test, as well.
    But, if Trump is, "cured," in a week--
    get back to me.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ax...ive-d361fcf6-061c-4af2-ad1d-55eeadba50d9.html
     
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    You make a fair argument for this not being a hoax, and honestly it most likely isn’t one. That being said I think Tuesday’s debate was the catalyst. We saw that Trump has major issues with impulse control and gave the left major ammunition with the Proud Boys comment. My theory is that his campaign knows putting him back on stage is a bad idea right now.

    Given this administration we may never know the truth.
     
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    Thoughts and wishes for him and the First Lady. CoS Meadows says he is experiencing mild symptoms and will not discuss what medical treatments are being used leaving that to the doctors. Market dip recovering and Pelosi already trying to point fingers and use it for political points and we see the conspiracy theories coming out of the woodwork here.
     
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    Well, don't feel bad about having the suspicion; these are times when it's a smart thing to be wary of what information is true & which isn't (probably that's applied at all times, in fact).

    To provide a little relativity for your perspective: I was just speaking w/ my mother who not only voiced the same suspicion, independently of you but, seeing Chief of Staff Mark Meadows on her t.v., commented-- based on her impression that he has been physically, "broadening," & so have AG Wm. Barr & Sec'y of State Pompeo-- that she thinks Trump might require those he works with to gain weight, so that he won't look as fat.
     
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    Oh man, I don’t know if I’d go that far down the rabbit hole, but it gave me a good laugh all the same.
     
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