Pro-Hamas Agitators Crash Philly Pride Parade While Confronting Angry LGBTQ Marchers

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  1. InWalkedBud

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    The strange thing about liberals is that if you break them down into individual sects most of them would hate each other.
     
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    how does the rooftop thing work with LBGT Hamas supporters? Do they tell the terrorists "nah man, no worries, I got it", and then just jump off the roof themselves?
    Gotta love that lib logic!!
     
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    That is exactly the case. They are a bunch of groups that have nothing in common except for their hatred of "the other," meaning me. That's how you get groups like "Queers for Palestine" which make no sense except in terms of everyone being allied against normal Americans, normal families, living normal lives.
     
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    To add to this the funniest part about it all is the complete non self awareness a lot of these folks have. I saw a clip of some internet reporter interviewing a "Queers for Palestine" person in an event similar to this where it was actually Muslims who went out and confronted the "Pro Palestine" marchers. The Queer For Palestine lady was ranting at the Muslim woman about how "we are on your side what is wrong with you!?" and the Muslim lady was basically like "get away from us we hate you" lol.

    I also saw an interview from when this same thing happened in NYC last week where a gay guy from the "Pride" side was yelling at the "Queers for Palestine" guy on the other side saying Islam hates us you moron stop marching for them if you went to Palestine they''d kill you lol.

    I swear I genuinely believe these folks are so "white knight" in their own brains that they believe if we allow the flooding of Muslims into communities in the name of social justice and "diversity" then the Muslims will high five all the Queers and say thanks and be buddies. Instead of being, you know, traditional Muslims who don't exactly take too kindly to homosexuality and are nowhere near as "tolerant" of it as a lot of the Christian denominations in the West are. But these folks tend to hate Christians because they think Christianity is oppressive to them while welcoming Islam which is about as strict as Inquisition era Christianity and Muslims by and large absolutely do not play that ****.

    I for one find this quite entertaining.
     
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    Well it is a bit entertaining. If only the consequences were not so high.

    They no doubt believe Christianity is the real enemy and if importing Muslims owns the Christians, well so much the better. But they don't take Muslims as seriously as they do their arch enemy, the Christians. I think they assume that all people are fungible and with the right programing, a Palestinian Muslim will in one generation become a queer for Palestine, and that in the long run, the pride flag will fly in Gaza along with the Palestinian flag.

    They will change the West long before that happens.
     
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    The Hamas people did the LGBQ+ community a favor. It shows what they think of gays, transexuals and all of the other 100+ sexes that are beyond male and female.
     
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    My first thought was, "I suppose it's too late to get the popcorn concession rights so the rest of us can watch the crazies fight it out and have a bit of a snack as we do so?
     
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    Wow. This is a truly offensive comment where I did not expect one. You are usually smarter than this. Queers for Palestine makes perfect sense, once you assume that queer people are often multi-dimensional critical nuanced thinkers, who are perfectly capable of being passionate about the lives of a decimated, starving population sitting in the middle of a warzone even if they are not our natural allies politically . We can be passionate enough about the imminent threat of a massive die off of women children and old people straight or queer, and yes that can for some, it supersede the importance of a yearly pride parade. Those of us who protest injustice as a tactic, are as capable of prioritizing an immediate humanitarian crises over a long term agenda as straight people.

    The fact you decided to turn us in caracatures for your agenda with this post, puts you in some unpleasant company here in the forum.

    I and my colleagues would stop marching in our parade, to provide you life sustaining first aide if you needed it, because we give a **** about straight 'conservative' human life.
     
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    Well that's an interesting take.

    There isn't anything in that post that should be personally offensive to anyone. Of course with the left, anything and everything can be offensive at any time. So the fact that I posted about identity groups, like many thousands of similar posts on this forum, suddenly triggers you is really about you and not me or anything I said.

    I can see that given how you've twisted my post to make it about you, means there isn't much point in trying to break it down to explain what I meant because I actually posted what I meant.

    I hope you can heal.
     
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    Lets look at this again, "That is exactly the case. They are a bunch of groups that have nothing in common except for their hatred of "the other," meaning me. That's how you get groups like "Queers for Palestine" which make no sense except in terms of everyone being allied against normal Americans, normal families, living normal lives".
    The entire post turns queers like me, into people who are so against 'normal Americans' that we are incapable of thinking outside our narrow agenda which you defined for us in ludicrous stereotyped demeaning fashion. We can't see the imminent death of thousands of innocent muslim Palestinians as worthy of protesting, why? You don't think that insults me and every other member of the LBGTQ community? You have a college education. Maybe you can find a better way to phrase this post of yours. Go ahead, explain this idea of yours a so that it does not insult queer people.
     
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    You folk can safely include me a 'queer for Palestine' I do not like massive die offs of innocent men women and children and there are a hell of a lot of them dying in Palestine. I don't care if the massive die off happens in Europe, or in Africa, or in Asia. I do not care if the population is supportive of the LBGTQ human rights agenda or not. People do not deserve to starve to death or have their limbs blown off because many of them stigmatize homosexuality as a matter of tradition or religion. . See, the decimation of a people and a culture is not my personal choice of a consequence or punishment for cultural or individual homophobia.
     
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    It shouldn't. But you want and need to interpret this as an insult in this fashion and that's unlikely to change.

    What we're talking about here is various and disparate political groups, mostly identity groups, who have no real common interests unlike most political coalitions. This isn't about gays concerned about deaths of thousands of innocents, since there have been plenty of innocents slaughtered all over the world, all of the time that don't stir the slightest interest of you or other "queers." I don't recall any similar "Queers for Syria" during the Syrian Civil War that lead to the deaths of half a million civilians. Even if you personally felt bad about them at the time "poor fellas," There were no organized political identity groups in the US rallying for them.

    Because this isn't about "the imminent death of thousands of innocent muslim Palestinians," this is about one faction of the progressive identity coalition supporting another faction because they are all in the same coalition. There were no Queers for Palestine in 2014, when there was a previous dust up with Israel, nor as I noted, for all of far more numerous dead Syrians. The difference is now the Muslim faction in the United States has attained a size, power (a couple of Muslim Congressfolk), and prominence that their issue: anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian, is now part of the the American progressive coalition lists of issues.

    So spare me the crocodile tears "the imminent death of thousands of innocent muslim Palestinians." It's as fake as the LGBTQA++ outreach group of Hamas.
     
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    Unbelievable. Our 'real common interest' is humanitarian. Palestinians and Queer people can align together to stop a humanitarian crisis of unprecedented dimensions in Palestine. Human beings can feel sufficient empathy that it calls them to action when a humanitarian crisis exist. I don't know that you have ever been so moved or so outraged by the massive loss of innocent lives that you chose to act politically but it is a thing that people do.

    Guess what? It never happens like some international equity theatrical production over 6 continents, and disparate generations. To this day, we have a lot more people interested in the Nazi genocide in Europe, than the genocide in Armenia or in the 70's in Cambodia. Do you suppose the only targeted genocide in Africa in the modern era was in Rwanda? It depends on the amount and nature of media coverage which queer people are not largely responsible for and with what complexity the issue is covered.

    Surprise to you. The progressive left has long been empathetic with the Palestinian people. I recall the 'Rainbow Coalition' under Rev. Jessie Jackson embracing this issue at exactly the same time that Jackson was first embracing the gay rights movement and thrusting both into the limelight of the Democratic Convention. Jackson was very prescient that way. The fact that there are a couple of muslim Congresspersons shows anemic growth, not exciting growth to anyone. No. Its the ongoing headlines in this specific conflict which served both party interests. The Maga Republicans fed this, bcause they wanted Ukrainian aid killed, and its victimhood status off the newscasts, and the supporters of Israel (both parties) loved talking about the Oct 6 attack to galvanize military support for their ally.

    there is nothing fake about humanitarian outrage simply because you don't share it or because it is not perceived as 'equitable'. Times are different. Headlines are different. Agenda's are different. Those are variables that the American people really do not control.


    This post of yours was consistent with a divide and conquer strategy(Turn the blacks against the Jews. Turn the gays against the Muslims) that's all over this forum. It also dehumanitized the queer community. We just are not supposed to able to actually care about a humanitarian disaster leading to tens of thousands of innocent muslim deaths enough to protest.

    Tell me, are only queers like this, is everyone on the left disingenous,who marches for peace or humanitarian aide in Palestine? Is everyone that wants to stop the starvation and deaths due to this war to be dehumanitized as really not caring, because they did not pay sufficient attention to Syria?
     
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    Last question first, I think every group in the progressive coalition adopts the issues of the other so in that sense, it's "sincere." But the only reason it's a thing is because it's an issue of a group in that coalition. There have been plenty of atrocities that have happened, and will continue to happen, that are totally off your radar because it does nothing to support the progressive coalition. There is no "Queers for Uihgurs" group because no one really cares about them even though the Chinese are operating by god concentration camps for them. Never again has turned out to be highly selective.

    Divide and conquer has nothing to do with my point. My point is actually the opposite, that groups that have nothing to do with each other and would hate each other under normal circumstances are allied against what they perceive as a greater threat.

    It's not as if you guys are not sincere about Palestine, it's just that the only reason you are sincere is because it's inside the coalition. If it's outside, you don't care. So I'm not sure I would say that your outrage about Gaza is disingenuous, it's simply that it's highly selective for politically beneficial victims.
     
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    The comments here speak for themselves and what type of people are that represents. Personally I don’t cheer violence and conflict. I certainly don’t find it entertaining.

    More sad
     
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    Some one is going to end up getting bitch slapped and their eyes scratched out...
     
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    In this case that aren't based in reality. It makes no damn sense to root for people whose goal in life where gay people are concerned is to bury them up to their knees and throw rocks at them until they quit breathing. That is the Koran's preferred method but any roof top of sufficient height will do. Note they don't appreciate that you care about their fellow religionists plight they are too busy being offended at the fact that gay people exist. Note the only thing they hate more passionately than gays are Jews. Shi'a Islam has become little more than a damnable death cult. And if they get their way you and everyone you know is slated for an early and most unpleasant death.

    This war isn't about colonizing and colonizers it is about religion Shi'a Islam vs the world and until these zealots get enough of a cathartic shock to start believing that maybe just maybe they god they depend on for their ultimate victory ain't all that, they will keep doing this crazy crap and depending on western leftist saps gay and straight to pull their fat out of the fire so they start the same crap all over again a few years down the road ending in even more death and destruction.

    What's sad sir is that in spite of this rather obvious slap in the face to leftist sensibilities you still don't understand what the hell your dealing with.
     
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    I ignore religion. I ignored it when Christians were teaching homophobia and using the Bible to justify discrimination and vile laws and treatment of gays. I ignored it when people who never stepped foot in a church were engaging in gay bashing. I ignore it when the Koran is used and Islam is blamed. I refuse to permit people like you to poison me about someone's faith. People are 100% responsible for how they treat gays, lesbians and transgender people. I hold individual people accountable because I realize plenty of Christians, non theists and Muslims treat gays with kindness and decency. Its all about which verses, which ideas any specific christian non theist or Muslim decide to pay attention to, and that reflects their basic nature. If you want to be kind generous and nonjudgemental, than that is what you will be.

    There are specific cultures where homosexuality is treated with less tolerance. those cultures will have religious, ideological, historic reasons for what sits in that culture. I don't parse them out for blame. I just start working from whatever point of reference I am presented and begin teach.

    Islam is not my enemy any more than Christianity. It is a complication. Regardless, I 'root' for innocent people not to die or starve. I root for them to be treated with dignity and empathy. I 'root' for self determination.
     
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    Another problem there are no innocent people. The only innocent man in history was crucified around 2000 years ago for making the rest of us look bad. The laws produced in Christian countries were misquided attempts to bring gays to repentance in most cases it was a hold over from the madness that was the Spanish inquisition. We are all of us every last single one of us guilty the moment we take our first breath.
     
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    Nope, not in the least.
     
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    The Gatewaypundit article, folks....
     

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