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Professor Raoult Releases Results of New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients

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  1. Levant

    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Which drugs are safer and offer the same results? Please provide any evidence to back up your claim - either test results or field results.
     
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All I can say is that you should stand your ground on this one. If you get the virus, tell your doctor you will never take a drug that Trump touted.
     
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read that somewhere as well. I'm not going to go search for it; anyone who wants to challenge it can KMA or find it themselves.
     
    Levant, Apr 13, 2020
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven't seen him (or her) mention their role in medicine. Based on their responses, I assume it's not nursing and that it's in admissions. I could be wrong.
     
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    No, YOU try thinking it thru. With Malaria, it makes the cells toxic to a PROTAZOA. This is a VIRUS. Whole different animal. And Cloro is only a catalyst, to allow ZINC into the cell, which makes the cell toxic to the VIRUS. This is why laymen should NOT create protocols, especially know nothing old men that don't read. Trump has ZERO reliable experience.
     
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    Levant Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a very interesting point I haven't heard mentioned. I'll bet somewhere, someone has done a study on that. I'd sure like to see those results.
     
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    This is why I don't buy bowerbirds claim to be a medical professional. I think he or she is googling as she goes and has zero medical experience or training. The agenda is anti-Trump, not "do no harm" or any other thing any medical professional I know of would have as an agenda.
     
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    Except it is completely valid for the 1000+ who survived because of the test.

    It's valid to the thousands of doctors who have prescribed hydroxychloroquine to their patients and to the 10s of thousands of patients who have survived the coronavirus because of, by their perspective, hydroxychloroquine.
     
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    Hardly enough data to answer that, is there? You mentioned, no link, no data, that Connecticut started using "it". No information on at what stage of the disease, medical conditions of patients, how many, or anything else. It's a meaningless diversion.
     
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    Not sure why this was addressed to me. But I'll agree that Trump has ZERO reliable experience in creating medical protocols. Now, can you provide any evidence or reliable claim that he actually created any medical protocol? Or are you just making stuff up out of hatred for Trump?
     
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    Not “safe” for everyone and particularly not for the most vulnerable population
     
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    Could we get one from an unbiased source not behind a paywall? I'm not disputing them but I don't see how you can say they're unbiased to the point of not being editorials
     
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    And the most vulnerable population is the important one. If you're young and strong you're not really being bothered anyway.
     
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    Does it have side effects? Could it be useful with people who are very likely to die anyway?
     
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    Seriously? they're public facts..
     
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    Claims to be an ER nurse
     
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    Well, I'm pretty sure that the doctors involved can manage to determine for whom it is safe, for whom there are risks, and how much weight to give those risks before prescribing the medicine. I'm pretty sure.. .no, I'm absolutely positive... that neither you nor I are qualified to make the decision or to advise the doctors involved on how to make the decision.
     
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    Then why aren't you using completely unbiased sources? Things that mention TDS and Trump hating in the first line don't seem that way to me.
     
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    I haven't seen that claim. I'll accept it at face value.. But consider him or her to be an ER nurse with an agenda.

    I am surprised, though, that an ER nurse would be so tied to documented and peer reviewed practices.. I would expect an ER nurse to be able to think more outside of the box.
     
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    You and most conservatives don't seem shy at all about doing so in regard to positive use.
     
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    Well, I simply googled to find which governors had banned the medicine. I actually knew of all three of these but didn't know if there were more - still don't since 3 was enough examples. The point is, I just found articles to back up that they all banned or limited the use of hydroxychloroquine specifically for coronavirus.. If you want to challenge the fact that any of those have banned or restricted the use as I mentioned then lay your claim.. go for it.

    If you're just unhappy with the messenger, well, touch schiff.
     
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    Her box is called "november".
     
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    I'm just saying I don't trust your sources, liberals aren't the only ones who can have an agenda
     
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    Really? Show me where I have ever given medical advice to a doctor. Show me where Trump has.
     
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    Well, you can offer supported challenges to claim that none of those listed banned or limited the use of hydroxychloroquine - or don't.. Your choice. If you're going to argue that I am wrong, offer your own links. Even CNN because not even CNN or MSNBC will say the bans don't exist.
     
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