Proof positive no plane flew over the Pentagon

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  1. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    You must have missed the part in my post that you quoted about avoiding things written by Griffin. Constantly repeating the idiotic fantasy crap he blathers about makes you look gullible and foolish.

    Psst . . . wanna know a secret . . . THERE ARE NO ROOF TOP MISSILES AT THE PENTAGON AND THERE NEVER HAVE BEEN.

    That would be rather inconvenient for the pilots flying into Reagan Airport to get blown out of the sky from time to time as they pass by the Pentagon. Not to mention blowing airplanes out of the sky over a residential area of Washington would be a bit inconvenient for the homeowners and residents as well.
     
  2. Jethro

    Jethro New Member

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    DDAve...what an idiotic post you make..of course their are roof mounted missiles...but they weren't operational the day of 9/11 for a while to allow the attack to happen...if they are not I am, sure the security forces responsible for the Pentagon would wonder what they are supposed to be manning if it was not these missile installed originally the 1980,s and updated often as required...commercial aircraft do not fly anywheres near the pentagon or whitehouse complex....You also did not address the other issues I raised in my post..you having a problem why the cameras were not working on top of the pentagon that day at that time too? lol.....get lost you got now replies you gullible government lackeys who believe every line of feces the government feeds you...bon appetite!
     
  3. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    :lol: Wow. Just wow. Reagan International Airport is less than a mile from the Pentagon and one of the flight paths takes planes much closer than a mile. Proof. Google maps is a wonderful tool. All one has to do is look at a map to know your claims are complete and total bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Jethro. Not only that, but google maps is high enough resolution that it would show missile emplacements on or around the Pentagon. Care to find those for us, Jethro? What? What is that? You can't find anything? OMG! AMAZING! :lol:
     
  4. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    Links and source please for this roof mounted Pentagon missile system installed in the 1980s??

    Here's a link on the outside chance that you would like to educate yourself on the matter.
    http://www.jod911.com/There_Are_No_Missile_Defenses_at_the_Pentagon.pdf
     
  5. Jethro

    Jethro New Member

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    Your site you linked is bogus....typical of you brain washes anal followers of the government line in this regard..why don't you try some independent research and use your brain???? to tough for you???....what about the rest of the points I raised...no answer for these either eh?? Why were the cameras on the Pentagon turned off at the time of the missile (it was not an 757)hitting the building? Why were the tapes all seized from cameras on business around there and never released? I am sure everyone but you know the answer, it is because they do not show an aircraft hitting the building but a missile thats why..and it is to cover up for the government complicity in this attack......
     
  6. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are correct; the plane didn't fly over the pentagon; it flew into it.
     
  7. Jango

    Jango New Member

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    Yes, that article is peer-reviewed; however, like in so many circumstances, there is a barrier separating us, and I mean all of us from the definitive truth on the matter. And of course, I speak of the barrier between us and the government. We cannot go and actually investigate ourselves. Go through records. Or just have records handed to us as easily as asked for. Not for all, that is. Because really, are you really willing to wager it all on the bet that the Pentagon has *zero* air defense technology at its premises?


    No, my information was attained in the Marine Corps. A staff NCO mentioned air defense capabilities, in which he said something to the extent that every base has air defense tech, and he then went on to talk about what it was like living during the Cold War. :popcorn: (And nice grammatical errors in the first f'ing paragraph.)

    LOL at all of the theories, but just because there is no commonly available proof, does that mean there isn't proof?
    Let's consort with the author's sources, shall we:
    http://www.dcmilitary.com/baseguides/airforce/andrews
    http://www.dcmilitary.com/special_sections/sw/081406d.shtml
    Page 112, Pentagate (London: Carnot, 2002) Thierry Meyssan
    http://www.911review.com/articles/griffin/madison.html#ftnote
    Page 36, The 9/11Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, David Ray Griffin. 2005
    http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/pentagon.htm
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m163.htm
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m247.htm
    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/09/10/ar911.air.defense/
    Page 131, Against All Enemies, Richard A. Clarke
    http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/07/interview-with-april-gallop.html
    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-Myth-Reality-Griffin30mar06.htm
    http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/P56A.html
    http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24426
    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2006/911-Myth-Reality-Griffin30mar06.htm

    I see *zero* FOIA requests in that sourcing list.

    Look at the lack of professionalism.

    That doesn't matter. Honestly. If they're not automated, they won't go off unless fired. Just like a stinger. It won't shoot until you squeeze the trigger after its seeked.

    This is actually telling in itself.

    The Pentagon might not have missile batteries. But what about the surrounding area. Like within 100 miles? Nike anti-aircraft missile systems used to line the East Coast:
    [​IMG]
    The thought I'm going with is...

    And way to bury two allies.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    This is a prime example of you denying evidence. There is ZERO evidence of the Pentagon having a missile defense system, yet you won't let it go.

    So some staffer claims BASES (Pentagon is not a base) have air defense systems which makes perfect sense. Air defense systems LESS THAN A MILE from a major international airport is the height of stupidity. It is no wonder truthers can't understand this simple fact.

    Andrews AFB is not the Pentagon.

    David Ray Griffin is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing loon.

    Nice update on the Pentagon. Not one mention of an air defense system. Why not? I thought you were posting proof of air defense systems.
    Don't you think someone would have seen one of these outside the Pentagon? You DO realize many civilians work at the Pentagon as well and that there are tours....

    I am betting you didn't even read your own sources. If you had, you would have read the FIRST SENTENCE which completely refutes missile defense batteries at the Pentagon or anywhere else in Washington since the Cuban missile crisis! :lol:

    An opinion piece with zero evidence. That plus the fact she is still trying to sue the government should clue you in.
    Reposting DRG doesn't make him any less of a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing loon.

    An opinion piece with a bunch of admitted unproven claims.

    Once again you obviously didn't actually READ the article. If you had, you would have encountered this as the first two paragraphs:
    Reposting the exact same article from DRG STILL doesn't make him any less of a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing loon.

    So because you don't "see" any FOIA requests, you ignorantly believe zero were made. You would be wrong. Just off the top of my head I know FOIA requests got the video footage released. A quick google search brought up all kinds of stuff including the following.
    http://publicrecordmedia.com/freedom-of-information-act-paperwork-pentagon-911/
    :lol: Even letsroll knows there was FOIA requests: http://letsrollforums.com/9-11-fbi-foia-t24026.html

    Really? A truther is going to whine about "lack of professionalism"? :lol: You were the one who also dismissed the evidence I posted of the flight paths of the planes. Of course, those documents were direct from the NTSB and are considered primary evidence.

    Your own sources disagree with you. Regardless, your claim is absolutely retarded. Nobody is going to agree to a missile defense battery right in the flight path of a major international airport. Forget about getting FAA approval for such a system. Think any other country that cares about their people would allow planes to fly to RIA right by missile defense batteries?

    Yes it is. Everyone but you thinks missiles at the Pentagon is a really bad idea. A shame you think your opinion is the only one that counts.

    The key word there is USE to. SAM sites were discarded at the end of the cold war in favor of fighter jets intercepting threats.
     
  9. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    Please refute the content of the "bogus site" with links and sources to support your claims, please?

    Here's another article but I imagine you'll consider that "bogus" as well.

    http://www.wnd.com/2001/09/10800/

    The rest of your points are as ludicrous as the first. I await sources and links supporting those as well.
     
  10. Jethro

    Jethro New Member

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    Hey Dave it sucks when you have no answer for the cameras and the rest of the questions I raise...sorry to put ask you those tough questions, guess the truth hurts you little buddy!
     
  11. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Questions aren't 'truth' jethro...and those are nonsense.
     
  12. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Hey Jethro, it sucks when your only response to a thorough ass whuppin is to whine that some of your questions didn't get answered. :lol: Truther fail can't recognize fail.
     
  13. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    :yawn: Did you say something Jethro? So you have no response to support your idiotic claims about the roof mounted missiles?

    Okay. There were no security cameras at the Pentagon "that were turned of during the attack" and all of the video confiscated from surrounding businesses was later released and made public. You're familiar with YouTube I take it?

    Here's some stuff for you to read through and educate yourself.
    https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

    Please feel free to refute the content of the site with something a little more profound than "that site you linked is bogus".
     
  14. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thanks for admitting they stole private property.

    were these people able to make their own copies first? Were they compensated for their loss of private property STOLEN for public use? Did the state honor their DUE PROCESS RIGHTS PRIOR TO STEALING THEIR PROPERTY?

    NO
    NO
    NO
    NO

    oh wait thats right, my bad!

    I forgot the gubafia is on the honor system and the people are on the prove it system.


    [video=youtube;WTbgsoHDc24]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTbgsoHDc24[/video]
     
  15. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for admitting your complete ignorance of criminal investigations.
     
  16. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Doesn't he purport to be a lawyer? Weird, right?
     
  17. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh what the hell. Just supply us with a copy of the court order k.

    I am ALL

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  18. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right after you produce the affidavit of someone who claims to have had a video stolen from them.
     
  19. DDave

    DDave Well-Known Member

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    Lawyer or physicist?

    I lose track.

    Maybe he's an animator. What with all of the annoying GIFs he keeps posting.
     
  20. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    arent they kool!

    no need your day watching a whole video for one little bit of information

    they are teaching devices.

    many people need a picture drawn for them

    unfortunately many people still dont get it.

    ya know?

    But I am a good Samaritan and I try to help people understand whats going on in the world around them.
     
  21. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should start by demonstrating you know what you're talking about. So far all I've seen from you are some really bad assumptions you made from watching some scifi videos, and a collection of animated GIFS that you've collected from the internet. Are you one of the people that needs a picture drawn for them? Because you've drawn some major false conclusions from the pictures you've provided here.
     
  22. NAB

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    It appears dumbfvck is a profession these days. This forum has some licensed ones.
     
  23. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    [video=youtube;ia5pQ5yUS5g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia5pQ5yUS5g[/video]

    Remind you of anyone?
     
  24. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Wow. What a d bag. And yes, he acts just like several people here. :lol: Totally delusional and deserving of a tasering.
     
  25. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats the problem man you dont see whats right in front of you. what can I say thanks for admitting it anyway, whatever.
     

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