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Pump-action shotguns -- how long before a ban?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by TOG 6, Dec 15, 2017.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Xenamnes Banned

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    This will most certainly all but eliminate a number of established arguments presented by those that favor firearm-related restrictions.
     
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    For those who are less paranoid, and smarter with their money.

    H&R Pardner Pump Protector 5+1 12ga 18.5

    $162.00


    [​IMG]
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are 55+ and secure in life, purchase for your grandchildren even if they are yet to be born.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    It is not paranoia, it was designed by sale in the European market. If it is actually allowed for sale and ownership in such nations, said market sees nothing wrong with such a high capacity, and does not regard it as being paranoia.
     
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    A more refined winning combination:

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    Except for the fact that it is not possible to properly fire such a configuration of shotgun, as it cannot be shouldered.
     
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    Look at you, avoiding the issue in its entirety. How cute.
     
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    Of course it isn't - but why pass up an an opportunity to avoid the topic and send out an ad hom?
     
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    Are you kidding? This -never- happens.
     
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    It can hold up to 40 rounds - one wonders how often you'd to through its magazines w/o solving the issue at hand.

    But, the point is the anti-gun left will assuredly argue for a ban.
     
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    Only in the mind of a paranoid.
     
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    Look at you, avoiding the issue in its entirety. How cute.
     
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    M79 Pirate Gun

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    A grenade launcher is not a shotgun.
     
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    At 9.25 lbs. and about another 4 lbs. of ammo when full, imo this will be a niche gun.

    It's of no use for hunting, too long for home defense, and too heavy to hump any distance on foot.

    It would have been one hell of a coach gun, though. :)
     
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    30" barrel = about 100 extra FPS on slugs and shot.
    Shorter than an 18.5" Rem 870
    Near perfect for behind the seat of your truck.
     
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    get a saiga 12, folks. Semi auto, AK reliability, drum mags.
     
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    Why is that?
     
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    Their dangerous in the wrong hands. You can kill a lot of innocent people a lot quicker then if you have a bolt action shotgun. With a bolt action shotgun you can still defend yourself and property without any issues whatsoever.
     
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    I'd much prefer the first KSG at 26.1" LOA for home defense. 15 rounds ought to do it.
     
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    why do you want to handicap honest people when they are confronted by violent criminals who obviously don't care about laws preventing them from possessing firearms?
     
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    How is that handicapping them? They can still defend themselves and property.
     
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