Pure evil - Palestinian brutally raped and murdered 19 years old Israeli woman

In the last week 11 people were brutally murdered in Israel by Palestinian pro ISIS terrorists.
The filthy terrorists are fed with Islamic Jihad hatred propaganda.

 

It's too easy to confuse hate with inspiration, and the perception of trespass with the call to vengeance. But to visit it on the innocent is madness. That's why vengeance justly belongs to God. And our American Constitution and system of justice is vastly superior to emotion and tribalism, and lends itself more to peace than to war. Short of God, what is better than patience.

 

I'm not hearing in that vid how Palestinians can get their property back.

The vid is a total joke. It mentions Israel build a wall, it doesn't mention they build it mostly/not at all on land that's not Israeli. Again, thieving property. It compares it to the wall the US build, leaving out it's build in the US.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/

The vids mentions that Arabs living in the West Bank do not fall under the Israeli law, saying it's all logical that it's not Israel.
He leaves out that Jews living in East Jerusalem, Golan and the West Bank do enjoy Israeli law and Israeli protection.
tss tss


That, rather American sounding gimp compares Israel to South Africa to claim there is no apartheid.
America who labelled Nelson Mandela, the biggest South African anti Apartheid hero, as a terrorist till way in the 1990's.
His best friend, Desmond Tutu, labelled Israel as an apartheid state.
Safe to assume Tutu knows what he's talking about.

 

You are right – it is impossible for Palestinians in Israel get back some property – the reason is Israeli version of Eminent Domain law, something similar which exist in the US related Native Americas land claims.
The good news is that Jews too cannot get back property which they owned in some Arab countries.
Yes, it is wrong when a government steals private property, does not matter if it steals from Arabs, Jews, Indians or other people.

Yes, you are right, some of the wall was built on private property, and it should be built with greater consideration.

This is explained in the video - Israeli citizens - Israeli Jews and Israeli Arabs have different right than non Israeli people. This is a common knowledge, Americans in Iraq or Afghanistan had different rights than the ntives.

I think it is safer to assume that Desmond Tutu didn't know what he was talking about.In Israel an Arab judge sentenced Israeli Jewish president to jail - does it look that Israel is an apartheid state?

And here is an opinion of an Israeli Arab:
https://vinnews.com/2022/03/01/yoseph-haddads-brilliant-defense-of-israel-in-the-irish-parliament/

 

So it is apartheid. Since Arabs can not while Jews can.

Whataboutism.

My point is not that it was build on private property. My point is that Israel build all or most of their wall outside Israel, at the expense of Arabs.
Arabs who do not fall under Israeli law, where the Jews do fall under Israeli law. That is apartheid.
The vid neverminds this.

Whataboutism

As far as I know:
Americans living in the EU are made to comply with local EU laws and local national laws, exactly like EU citizens.
EU citizens in the US are made to comply with American laws exactly like American citizens.

Israeli Jews living in Israel are made to comply with Israeli laws.
West Bank Arabs may not appeal to Israeli laws in Israel
Israeli Jews living outside Israel, Golan, East-jerusalem and the WB still got Israeli laws
Arabs living outside Israel, Golan, East-jerusalem and the WB only got domestic laws.

I sourced that a human rights organization accuses Israel of apartheid specifically on this case.

This is apartheid. Israel and it's Jews simply apply their law when it suits them in and outside Israel, and they prohibit Arabs from using those same laws in and outside Israel when it's not to their liking. This is very unlike my example of EU and American citizens.

You are really out of line to think Desmond Tutu doesn't know what apartheid is.

 

Nope! The only law which says :"Jews must and Arabs not" is the service in the army. Arabs have right to volunteer, but Jews don't have this option.
The state can legally confiscate citizen's property, without regard to his ethnicity. For example there is a law about abandoned property which applies to people who left Israel in 1948, which de facto applies to Arabs only - but this is not apartheid. As I said - Arab judge sentenced Israeli president to jail - does it look like apartheid?

Yes, it is exactly Whataboutism. But the question is - are we agree that stealing property by government is wrong, without regard which government is stealing property and from who? I say yes, it is wrong when Israel is stealing Arabs property and it is wrong when Arab government is stealing Jewish property.
Do we agree?

Currently Israel occupies all West Bank, the final borders of Israel are not drawn, so it is LOGICAL that the wall is built outside 1967 borders. It has nothing to do with apartheid,

Yes, it is exactly Whataboutism. And the question - should Americans give Iraqis and Afghanis the same right as Americans have? If your answer is yes, I respect it. If not - you are hypocrite.

I still thing you don't know what apartheid is, read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid
Apartheid was a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa and South West Africa (now Namibia) from 1948 until the early 1990s. Apartheid was characterized by an authoritarian political culture based on baasskap (boss-hood or boss-ship), which ensured that South Africa was dominated politically, socially, and economically by the nation's minority white population.
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The is no discrimination in the Israeli law. Even the Law of Return which applies to Jews only cannot be interpreted as apartheid - many countries allow citizenship to people born outside of the country based on roots o culture. Occupied territories are governed by the army and a military law is applied to non Israeli citizens. I don't know when the last time you visited UE - but using your logic there is apartheid in the UE - on the border of the UE countries there is a short line for UE citizens and long, very long for Americans and other non-UE citizens. Apartheid?

If the Desmond Tutu knew true facts about Israel and if he knew the Arab judge sentenced Jewish president to jail and he still insisted that Israel is an apartheid state - he knew nothing about apartheid or he was lying.

 

You say no, but I sourced yes.

Since it only applies to Arabs it's by default an Israeli apartheid law. In fact, that scheme was pulled to thieve the real estate of +700,000 Arabs.

Point stands that:
Jews can get their property back outside Israel under Israeli law in the WB, where Arabs do not get to enjoy those laws.
While Jews can also get their property back inside Israel under Israeli law, where WB Arabs do not get to enjoy those laws.
This is apartheid.

This is very different to other countries where property laws are respected without a care in the world what the ethnicity or nationality of a person is not important.

The world has determined what Israel is and what isn't Israel.
The WB isn't Israel, and Israel build the wall (all or almost all) in the WB.
That is totally different compared to the wall the US build.
It is that simple.

And Israel did this, to build their wall on Arab owned land, again to thieve their land and not Jewish land. This too is apartheid.

No point to discuss whataboutisms.

Point stands that:
Jews can get their property back outside Israel under Israeli law in the WB, where Arabs do not get to enjoy those laws.
While Jews can also get their property back inside Israel under Israeli law, where WB Arabs do not get to enjoy those laws.
This is apartheid.

This is very different to other countries where property laws are respected without a care in the world what the ethnicity or nationality of a person is not important.

 

Well, let me summarize our discussion:

Me: In Israel an Arab judge sentenced Jewish President to a jail.
You: Israel is an apartheid state.

Me: In Israel Arabs doctors treat Jewish patients and Jewish doctors treat Arab patients.
You: Israel is an apartheid state.

Me: In Israel government confiscated property of some Arabs and in Jordan government confiscated some Jewish property. Do you agree that confiscating private property by government is bad, does not matter which government and which property is confiscated?
You: Israel is an apartheid state.

Me: In Israel it is not illegal for a Jew marry an Arab.
You: Israel is an apartheid state.

Me: In 1999 Israelis citizens elected Rana Raslan, an Arab girl as Miss Israel.
You: Israel is an apartheid state.

Me: In 2009 Israelis elected Mira Awad, an Arab singer to represent Israel in Eurovision – European song competition.
You: Israel is an apartheid state.

Well, maybe I am wrong, maybe in apartheid Black judges sentenced White citizens, maybe in apartheid Black doctors treated White persons and vice versa, maybe in apartheid Whites elected a Black girl as Miss South Africa, maybe it was legal in apartheid when White married a Black, and more.
Please, teach us more about apartheid.

 

You: Israel is not an apartheid state because of reasons 1 to z
Me: Whatever. I mention where Israel is an apartheid state, I got my source, and you are defaulting on that argument.

 

Me: You cannot be virgin on Monday and Friday only.

 

There's no way to reason with the hardcore anti-Israel crowd. Amnesty twisted the definition of apartheid until it completely lost its original meaning, making it possible for our enemies to claim that everything they don't like is apartheid.

Amnesty also misrepresents international law and Israeli law. Studies made by real experts in law clearly prove that Amnesty so-called researchers are lying.

However, the true intent behind the apartheid slander has nothing to do with human rights. Amnesty's problem is the existence of the Jewish state. The executive director of Amnesty International USA, Paul O'Brien, recently stated in a public forum that Israel "shouldn't exist as a Jewish state." That's Amnesty's true hateful, racist face. Shamenesty International.

https://www.newsweek.com/amnesty-in...lice-israel-cloaked-ignorance-opinion-1687982

 

I'm not seeing you deny that Arabs do not get their properties back unlike Jews.

 

You too can not deny that Israeli Jews are able to get their properties back in and outside Israel, unlike Arabs.
All you can do is attacking messengers by resorting to "They are bias / they are anti-semitic."... when cornered with the nasty facts of your Jew homeland.
Your post really is a dime a dozen.

 

And again.. Yesterday in Tel Aviv a filthy Palestinian terrorist murdered 2 Israelis and wounded 15 in an evil atack .
That's the true story. Palestinian hatred and terror.

 

Jews cannot get back their East Jerusalem property conquered and appropriated by Jordan in the 1948 war.

 

They do
https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/8530

And currently the supreme court has only suspended specific evictions.
But that's not the same as if they ruled that the Jews lost their claim.

 

IF.. the truth would come out about the common themes in near death experience accounts in both Jews as well as Muslims......
I do believe that young men.... (no matter whether they are Muslim or Jewish), would begin to be scared to commit.... (or even seriously consider committing), a crime like this.........

I think it was MacArthur who stated.... "It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh."





Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is good at sarcasm... but I believe that he is intellectually dishonest and / or terribly ignorant......

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/