Purge the resistance

Or the senate does not even have to hold a trial. They can simply throw the articles of impeachment and go about their way.

But then when Trump wins the Dems will just have to roll out impeachment all over again.

 

"The reason independents don't support impeachment is because they don't see any point to it this close to an election when the Senate won't convict."

Or...

They just don't think that opinion is a valid reason.

 

Unlike the House the Senate will run a trial conducted under the fundamental principle by which our nation was founded - due process.

BTW, you complain about bias and write the above post ??? Too funny.

 

And that fact will be the demise of the Democrats in 2020. For example instead of passing the USMCA which would result in ~ 200,000 jobs for US citizens and add ~ $70B to the annual GDP Pelosi and Schiff run a kangaroo court with nothing but hearsay "evidence". There are countless campaign points which can be rightfully used by Repuclican candidates in 2020.

 

The American people demand that the spirit of due process be the fundamental consideration in every action of the government. When that is denied independent voters are lost to the Party denying due process. That is exactly what is happening today.

 

There is no 'spirit of due process'. Its your superficial way to demand due process and wiggle away from the impact of your demand on institutions where it cannot function and nobody seriously expects it to. . That is the moment you, AFM discover a 'spirit' of due process as some platitude to contrast evil-doing. You turn a concrete nuts and bolts system of constitutional protections against policing and judicial overreach into a cologne you are trying to sell by claiming that anywhere we can't smell your patented 'L'eaux de Proces' must stink.

All you are doing with this spirit of due process is sitting in the playground shreaking at the other kids who won't give you the ball, because its not faaaaaiiiiirrrrrr!

 

There absolutely is. The fact that you don’t recognize that fact is telling. The American people expect fairness and due process is fundamental to fairness. The Schiff Show has been completely unfair because it tramples due process.

 

Yeah and a drunk driver is not getting his 'spirit of due process'; when he is being questioned at his car on how much he drank and when without his lawyer standing beside him and a newspaper reporter scribbling details of the interaction so that his buddies at the party knows what the answers should be before they get questioned tomorrow.. That is what Americans demand in a preliminary investigation prior to arrest. Heck why in hell are cops going to homicide scenes to gather evidence at all without the public access of photographs in the morning papers showing the entire layout and the weapon and the body? Its about transparency and fairness so that everybody knows everything the cops do!

 

Can’t make this up. ^^^^

 

You kidding me?? It takes two to tango, the republicans had an even hand in this as well, I heard someone say that this isn't the United States of America anymore, it's the Divided States of America. Sad but true. But go ahead, keep pointing the finger if that makes it all better.

 

The Schiff Show has ruled that the Republicans are not allowed to Tango.

 

No you can't, that is the direct consequences of expecting a 'spirit of due process' in the preliminary stages into an investigation into wrongdoing. That is exactly what the GOP whiners were demanding Adam Schiff provide in a spirit of due process. Trump is not under arrest and he is having his life or property threatened. He does not get due process from a House committee doing the work of an investigator or special counsel into wrong doing.

The guy should be gratefull to get his lawyers in the room at all before this gets voted on and sent to the senate where a trial happens.

 

Every American expects and deserves due process in their daily lives. Americans react very negatively to those who attempt to take that away from others.

 

I deny it.

Trump impeachment efforts started 19 minutes after he was sworn in.

 

Don't forget the Senate gets to Tango when it's their turn.

 

Yes. Due process will ensue in the Senate unlike the kangaroo House Schiff Show.

 

Yeah. It takes an attacker and an attackee.

What's your point?

 

You can bet your bippy that the accused will get due process in a court or the judge will wave him on his way.

 

And that is exactly where I want the accused whoever he is, to get due process and by whom. I am a supporter of civil liberties and the ACLU who work tirelessly to ensure that all fifth amendment protections are scrupulously adhered to by policing agencies and the courts. But I recognize that that begin with a presumed compromise on life liberty or property and in most cases that means a government lien or search or seizure, a government fine, or some sort of police detainment.

 

though not a seizure or fine]... and not in a congressional tribunal. Government or police can constitutionally search and detain with reasonable suspicion or a court warrant, but not with wish upon a star.

 

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And that is the due process standard as interpreted by the appellate court system, which has not provided one for House impeachment proceedings and will not provide one to House impeachment proceedings deemed to be nonjusticiable political questions , and which not covered under a constitutional provision defined as matters properly restricted to efforts to constrain or seize life liberty or property.

The House gets to do pretty much as it pleases in these hearings, based on the 'wish upon a star' standard. .

 

And as a consequence of the Schiff Show not being fair and ensuring due process the Democrats are losing support among independents and the swing states.

 

And that is why the Schiff Show will sink the Democrats.