Question for my low information friends . . .

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  1. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    How many promises does Trump have to renege on (before he even assumes office) before you realize he ain't the guy you thought you were getting? I get the distinct impression you all got your diplomas from Trump U.

    a) Six

    b) Eight

    c) Ten

    d) All promises
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    How can he go back on a promise BEFORE he takes office? That is just bizarre.
     
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    Er, by saying "I changed my mind. I'm not going to do that."
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but actions, not words, determine that. Yanno, like if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    He's done it many times already, the most recent example being that he won't prosecute Hillary. Another being his wall, which is now already down to three strands of already existing three strands of barbed wire. Don't be dense.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    -Deport all illegals.

    -Indict Hillary.

    -pull out of all Climate Change accords and end all Climate Change rules.

    -build a wall.

    -withdraw from Iran deal.

    -repeal Obamacare.




    donald has already said he will reverse these commitments.

    so what did the GOP vote for? a Liberal in disguise?

    LOL!!!!
     
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    Sorry, but 'promises' are MADE with words, not actions.
     
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    Conviction Well-Known Member

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    If he's a liberal why are you emotionally unstable over his election?
     
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    l DO hope he sticks to his promise to pull out of TPP. I want my whiny factory working Republican friends to go back to work and shut up.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not making any excuses here, but I would have expected him to have made some promises that he could not practically keep. He's not a politician. He WANTS to do things that he, as a citizen, recognizes need to be done, but for varying reasons, turn out to be impractical, or impossible, once he starts to get a feel for what is involved, and the unforeseen implications.

    It would be like you getting a job as a carnival ride designer, with no prior experience. You, as an avid rider, can probably imagine LOTS of uber-cool ideas for carnival rides; ideas that make other riders like you salivate in anticipation. But once you begin the design and engineering process along side people who know what they're doing, you learn that some of your ideas aren't going to be possible or practical.

    I am sure he believed everything he said, at the time, and has not intentionally mislead anyone on his promises. But I also realize that he has more information now on the implications of implementing those promises and, adjustments will have to be made, or just scrapped. Again, he's new to the job.

    I truly think what he DOES get done will be with the best interests of the American people at heart, and I'm willing to give him a chance. If he gets sucked into the dark side of the corrupt, crony, status-quo, then I will be first in line in 2020 to vote him out.
     
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    I don't believe he's a liberal or a conservative. I believe he's like a drunk at a bar on a Friday night who has gotten too loud and managed to draw attention to himself. Who knows what he's going to say next?
     
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    Because you asked, after Trump is sworn in I will be watching what he does. If he reneges on the promises important to me I will access the situation at that time. If I'm disappointed with him I'll be on him like a ton of bricks. I don't expect him to follow all my wishes. But I can let my displeasure be known on any subject and will do so.
     
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    Don't be dense? You mean like when I said the election would be close and depend on turnout while others were touting the silly polls? Hahahaha!

    - - - Updated - - -

    You mean like keeping your doctor?
     
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    Trial and error as an on-the-job training technique makes about as much sense in the Presidency as it does in a bomb disposal unit. Also, with his undeniable history of manipulation and exploitation and his obvious self-centeredness, how can you possibly believe that the best interests of the American people will be prioritized?
     
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    Ah, here we go ... the all-important diplomas.

    When you go to a members-only dinner party at the country club, is it awkward if your diploma came from a state university when most other people at the party got theirs at a private university? Are State U grads even invited?
     
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    Did any leftists answer yet?
     
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    Well... That's where we are now, isn't it?
    manipulation? exploitation? [citations needed]

    Self centered? Yes. I think he fears failure more than anything else. I think he wants to do a good job. I think he's either going to be completely overwhelmed, or he's going to do a good job. I think there's even an outside chance that he's going to do a VERY good job. He is already doing what most of the people who voted for him want.... shake up the status-quo, expose corruption, etc.

    On the other hand, there is a good chance that he will be engulfed by the tsunami of corrupt, crony, criminal, status-quo that infests DC, and will join the dark side, because that's going to be the path of least resistance for him. I hope that does not become the case, because if it does, he will find the support he's received will flip on a dime and send him packing too.
     
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    What about all of those union member democrats who want to reverse free trade too? Oh, I forgot. The Clinton democratic party no longer represent these people that made the party of FDR so strong, controlling congress for decades..until they stopped standing up for working people.

    I would think the people who hated trump would like him better now he is back pedaling on some of the things he campaigned on. But no, they just ramp up the hatred for reversing what these dems ranted about. LOL

    Clearly we are seeing little more than a primitive tribal mentality on the left. The Donald is not in their tribe, and that is really the gist of it. He could move to a full blown modern liberal, and they would still rant on about him. Yes, something is wrong with this picture. But it is very revealing, IMO.

    Not voting for him or Hillary, this is very entertaining for me. But I love watching people making fools of themselves, or rather, plunging even deeper into foolery. George Carlin would have so much new material and we sure need him now. George gave up on humanity, and he was intelligent enough to withdraw from the foolishness, the incoherence, the absurdity of it all. He was dead on when he said there was this big club, and you ain't in it. Yet some of us think we are in it. These are the fools. American Fools, American Idiots.
     
  19. Kode

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    They need to either admit that he is a liar, or admit that he is changing his mind because he was so poorly informed in the first place, believe me.

    He also does not know more about ISIS than the military brass.
     
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    Anyone running for public office, especially the Presidency will say anything it takes to get into office. You can go back and pick apart EVERY one of their stumps speeches versus what they did in office.

    Trump will be no exception.....get over it and move on.
     
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    The unions have wanted to reverse free trade since NAFTA was signed. The Republican hard-guys are post-Bush recession fellas who now want government protections for everything. .
     
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    I've never had the opportunity to interview someone with a Trump U diploma. I'm sure some of them are good people. Some are probably rapists.
     
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    If you thought all lawyers were corrupt, would you ask your realtor to defend you in court? Every choice is a gamble, but I prefer not to go against the odds.

    He won the election and I DO wish him well, for AMERICA'S sake.
     
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    There's a difference between responding to changing condition and lying to win.
     
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    Add " we will torture or worse"
     

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