Question for the right-wingers, re: gun control ...

This is really a two-part question.

1) Have you ever met anyone that you thought should not have access to firearms?

2) If there are people that should not have access to firearms, what measures would you advocate to restrict their access?

Thanks!

[SUB]You can now go back to blowing stuff up or biting the heads off vegetarians or whatever you people do.[/SUB]

 

1) Yes, government non military organizations. See below.
2) Follow current law.

In the April 19, 1993 final assault, the Davidian dead included:

Katherine Andrade, 24, American
Chanel Andrade, 1, American
Jennifer Andrade, 19, American
George Bennett, 35, British
Susan Benta, 31, British
Mary Jean Borst, 49, American
Pablo Cohen, 38, Israeli
Abedowalo Davies, 30, British
Shari Doyle, 18, American
Beverly Elliot, 30, British
Yvette Fagan, 32, British
Doris Fagan, 51, British
Lisa Marie Farris, 24, American
Raymond Friesen, 76, Canadian
Sandra Hardial, 27, British
Zilla Henry, 55, British
Vanessa Henry, 19, British
Phillip Henry, 22, British
Paulina Henry, 24, British
Stephen Henry, 26, British
Diana Henry, 28, British
Novellette Hipsman, 36, Canadian
Floyd Houtman, 61, American
Sherri Jewell, 43, American
David M. Jones, 38, American
David Koresh, 33, American
Rachel Koresh, 24, American
Cyrus Koresh, 8, American
Star Koresh, 6, American
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2, American
Jeffery Little, 32, American
Nicole Gent Little, 24, Australian,pregnant
Dayland Gent, 3, American
Page Gent, 1, American
Livingston Malcolm, 26, British
Diane Martin, 41, British
Wayne Martin, Sr., 42, American
Lisa Martin, 13, American
Sheila Martin, Jr., 15, American
Anita Martin, 18, American
Wayne Martin, Jr., 20, American
Julliete Martinez, 30, American
Crystal Martinez, 3, American
Isaiah Martinez, 4, American
Joseph Martinez, 8, American
Abigail Martinez, 11, American
Audrey Martinez, 13, American
John-Mark McBean, 27, British
Bernadette Monbelly, 31, British
Rosemary Morrison, 29, British
Melissa Morrison, 6, British
Sonia Murray, 29, American
Theresa Nobrega, 48, British
James Riddle, 32, America
Rebecca Saipaia, 24, Filipino[72]
Steve Schneider, 43, American
Judy Schneider, 41, American
Mayanah Schneider, 2, American
Clifford Sellors, 33, British
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35, American
Floracita Sonobe, 34, Filipino
Gregory Summers, 28, American
Aisha Gyrfas Summers, 17, Australian, pregnant
Startle Summers, 1, American
Lorraine Sylvia, 40, American
Rachel Sylvia, 12, American
Hollywood Sylvia, 1, American
Michelle Jones Thibodeau, 18, American
Serenity Jones, 4, American
Chica Jones, 2, American
Little One Jones, 2, American
Neal Vaega, 38, New Zealander
Margarida Vaega, 47, New Zealander
Mark H. Wendell, 40, American

 

Okay. So just people that work for the government, then? Everybody else should be allowed access to weapons?

By the way, not to make light of a tragedy, but what's the deal with all the kids' names on that list? Chanel? Startle? Hollywood? Serenity? Chica? Little One?

The Branch Davidians were naming their children after perfumes?

 

There are plenty of people I've met that I dont think should have them but you cant deny them till they screw up.

That being said I would ramp up the penalties for not being responsible. You dont lock up your weapon and someone takes it you get 5 years in prison, if its used in a crime you get 10. Any violent crimes in your past you lose your right to a gun.

You get caught with an illegal weapon you get 25 yrs. in prison.

No more buying guns outside of a federally regulated business. You want to sell one you have to go through somethung similar to the dmv so it can be tracked.

You use a gun in a crime its life in prison.

Other than that, all non-explosive guns should be legal.

 

What if you lock it up and someone takes it?

 

Should have locked it up better. I have a safe that would need a machinist to get into.

 

LOL, are you going to create and entitlement program for the poor so they can afford "better" safes so they can defend themselves? How about just locking their doors, it is already a crime to break into a house.

 

You mean until there's 20 dead 5 year olds?

Yeah, then its time to act...

 

If you want a gun you better make sure you can keep it safe...believe me, after the prison terms start getting passed out people will not want to risk it.

 

Well if you have a foolproof way to tell who is going to shoot up a school then please share it with us.

 

Yes, make citizens the criminals for others criminal activity. Brilliant. Why not lock up the fathers and mothers of criminals since they produced them?

 

If you have a gun locked up then call the police, show them where the gun was, the busted safe, and give them the registration, your off the hook.

 

Guilty till proven innocent? We already have far to many non violent offenders in our prison system what would a few more hurt.

 

There is none. Banning the guns is the only viable solution.

 

How is that a sign of guilt?

Its the same as when your car is stolen. But if your gun shows up in a crime you have some responsibility for it. If you dont notice that someone has broken into your safe and stolen your gun then you are too ignorant to own one.

 

That's the trouble, there isn't one. So how about if you tell us your foolproof way to keep guns out of the hands of another Adam Lanza?

 

I agree on the first part. On the second it is not viable or possible. The odds of that are about the same as conservatives banning abortion. Not going to happen.

 

Wont work...you will never get all the guns currently in circulation.

 

We don't just like we can't stop the next Ted Bundy.

 

So your response to the parents of 20 dead children is: Oh well.

 

You said show the police how your guns were stolen as opposed to the police proving you failed to properly secure them.

 

Your never going to stop all mass murders, you can only try to limit them.

 

Agreed. What's your proposal to limit mass shootings? We already know that relying on gun owners to keep their weapons out of the wrong hands doesn't work.

 

Either way then as long as its clear they were stolen.

 

I would not say oh well, it was tragic. You can not prevent that kind of person.