Race Relations Between Blacks & Whites Will Always Be Poor

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Zook, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Zook

    Zook New Member

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    Nobody hates for no reason or because of something as meaningless as skin color. That's the trouble with ignorant anti-racists. They just assume we're the ones at fault because we have nothing better to do than hate on people for no real reasons. How simplistic and petty. That's why anti-racists lose these debates everytime. They are ill-informed and simplistic.

    Try living around a large majority of blacks for a few years and then come back and talk. You'd at least be qualified to disagree with us then.
     
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    micfranklin Banned

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    You hate on me all the time, even when I used to disagree with you in a nice matter and proved you wrong.
     
  3. micfranklin

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    And as much as Zook and Libhater whine about poor black-white relations you two sure don't do a whole lot to try and correct it. I know no one's obligated to do anything for anyone but constantly (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about the problem doesn't improve it, or do anything for anyone in fact.
     
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    Look, we aren't whining about anything. We are simply pointing out the vast differences between WHITES and blacks. We gave you the solution to the black problem by suggesting you move back to your mother country.

    Your liberal/dem friends in power have been giving you blacks welfare entitlements for at least since 1965, but evidently you're still not satisfied with that seeing how you continue to whine.

    You continue to reject voting for Republicans who would see to it that you started to pick yourselves up by your own bootstraps.

    So what that leaves is for you blacks to help yourselves. What are you doing as a black man to help yourself and or help your people? Playing the racist WHITE people game of them keeping you down from pursuing opportunities just isn't going to wash anymore. I can't possibly stop you from succeeding in life because I remain segregated from you in my gated community. So don't put any of your dissappointments and failures on me...okay? Time to zuck it up pal. Time to belly up to the table of vast opportunities and a goal oriented future if you will--that is, once you serve any and all time with your incarcerated history.
     
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    And yet every thread you've made in this subforum disagrees.

    How about providing a more reasonable and realistic solution. And I believe I said YOU aren't doing much, not blacks. The OP is once again the first person to complain about the problem then talk about why he hates blacks, and is ironically the last to do anything meaningful about it.

    Of course if blacks do have to move back I'd like to know which one of you is footing the bill for the trip, since I'm short on cash.

    I don't have welfare entitlements so I'm fine. Take that up with someone living in the ghetto.

    Maybe they should offer something more than religiousness and supporting the invasion of Iraq. Perry, Bachmann, Romney and Co. just aren't all that interesting.

    I do volunteer work and community service, is that okay?

    What exactly have I failed in again, how would you know any of this and when did I blame you for anything happening?
     
  6. Unifier

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    Here's the thing, though. Just because the majority are lost does not mean everyone is the same. I cannot in all good conscience judge someone based merely on their appearance and deny them the chance to show me their character. I spent too much of my life on the other side of that, and it sucks.

    Growing up as a long-haired white kid, I got harassed by police and stereotyped and treated like a drug addict and a criminal everywhere I went despite being a clean, honest, normal kid. I understood why people made those assumptions because a lot of people that looked like me, in fact, were those things. And I never took it personally when people had that first impression. But I did get annoyed with the people who never got past that first impression and never gave me a chance to show them who I really was.

    I think racism is the same way. It's natural to develop expectations about people who share certain traits when your experiences with such people have yielded consistent results. That's totally normal. But if you allow those expectations to make you forget that each new person you meet is a blank sheet of paper and you honestly don't know what they are like until you talk to them, then you end up shooting yourself in the foot.

    I've experienced a lot of the same stuff you're talking about here. I remember specifically the tremendous shift that happened over summer vacation between 6th and 7th grade. I remember showing up to school in the fall at the beginning of junior high and suddenly all the black kids I was friends with just three months ago who I used to play sports with on the playground... they couldn't be friends with me anymore. They didn't want to talk to me anymore because I was white. They were wearing Malcolm X hats, segregating themselves into their own little group, and being incredibly mean to everyone when no one was provoking them. I didn't understand it at all. For the last 4 years, no one gave a crap what color anyone was. We were all the same. Just boys playing sports. And now I couldn't even say hi to them anymore.

    And the older I got, the more of it I saw. It seemed to get more and more common. It never turned me into a racist, and it never stopped me from looking at each new person I met as a possible new friend (my best friend in high school ended up being black), but I definitely got increasingly saddened and cynical about how hostile people of minority ethnicities were becoming as I grew up. And that was purely a learned behavior because, like I said, nobody acted that way in grade school.

    But I think a lot of that learned behavior comes from the poison a lot of these folks are being fed. Identity politics are a cancer. All they do is divide us and keep the people down they claim to want to help. When somebody tells you, "You're black, so you have to act this way," you're not allowed to listen to someone like Herman Cain who challenges those limiting beliefs. It's a mental prison that keeps people hopeless and miserable.
     
  7. Zook

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    Yeah, that sounds lovely...

    Except innocent (often elderly, children or disabled) people are dying in the most brutal and barbaric ways due to these black thugs each and every day in America.

    The amount of innocent people who are being murdered, raped and robbed by the black crime epidemic in what is SUPPOSED to be a CIVILIZED SOCIETY is absolutely UNACCEPTABLE. Suggesting that there's a tiny population of black "people" who aren't like the overwhelming violent majority isn't going to make America a safer place to live.

    When so many innocent people are needlessly losing their lives over something that is actually quite fixable through peaceful segregation, it's time to abandon all talk of "well, they're not ALL like that, so leave them alone" no matter how accurate it may be and start to put the safety of the people FIRST.

    Whether there's exceptions to the rule or not, black "people" have proven they're not fit for civilized society and life would run a hell of a lot smoother without them. So why take snippets right out of the liberal handbook that don't really benefit anyone in the long run and not just handle the problem logically?
     
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    Liberals simply cannot see, or refuse to see racial differences. The obvious facts are simply too inconvenient to their idealistic notions of equality.
     
  9. Unifier

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    We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this. Because I can't denounce someone I admire like Herman Cain just because some other jackass pulled a gun on me at a stoplight downtown a few years ago (that really happened, by the way). That's throwing the baby out with the bath water.

    "Black culture" is poisoned, no doubt about it. And the culture, itself, does create a huge social problem. But not everyone is drinking the poison. Even if they are a minority within their own minority group. It is the people who reject that poison that give me hope. The people who say, "The color of my skin does not dictate my actions. I can think for myself."
     
  10. Zook

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    That's fine. We'll agree to disagree.

    Herman Cain's an idiot by the way. I admire his business skills, but he has the political skills of a truck driver.
     
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    You'll forgive me if I think you would like him just fine if he was white.
     
  12. Zook

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    Not at all, all the Republican candidates are idiots. Except Ron Paul.

    They're all pro-Israel, pro-war, pro-immigration, pro-foreign aid, pro-poking their noses into other nations business.

    Why do you anti-racists assume such stereotypical things about us racists then condemn us for stereotyping blacks? It's the ultimate in hypocritical double standards.
     

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