[video=youtube;M2KPeMcYsuc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2KPeMcYsuc[/video] So a group of Men's Rights activists had an event held at the University of Toronto to discuss issues that primarily affect men. However, there were tons of feminist protesters that showed up and blocked the hallway leading to the meeting. Eventually one of them pulled a fire alarm, which shut down the event and ended up wasting the fire departments time. The video below is what happened afterwards outside the building. [video=youtube;nvYyGTmcP80]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvYyGTmcP80[/video] What the hell has happened to Feminism? What happened to freedom of thought and speech when it comes to social justice issues? Why are these radicals becoming louder and louder and tainting the image of Women's Rights? Any thoughts?
Some of those women were almost as annoying as the dude who made that Youtube video. Pulling the fire alarm was wrong. As for the rest of it? I don't know enough about the orgainzations involved. There may be some history behind this particular MRA group or its leadership that I don't know about. Or may that feminist group was just wrong. The thing is, there are legitimate issues regarding health, welfare, and justice for men and boys throughout the world. But too often people using the term “Men’s Rights Activist” are using it as an excuse for misogyny. I have visited the MRA sites and threads out there. The platforms they list on their sites all sound great but as soon as you step into their forums you see who you are really dealing with. Maybe a new movement, sans the misogyny, needs to be started. I think MRA is too infiltrated to be purged.
Radical Feminism? The people in those videos are relatively restrained for feminists. There are examples of feminists promoting violence against men that are more radical, and not only are they radical but they are also funded by the government http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/str...74547.html . Meanwhile MRA's were once considered a hate group by The Southern Poverty Law Center and MRA's are still to this day considered, "problematic" by people repressenting The Southern Poverty Law Center.
A bit more background http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/michael-laxer/2012/12/mens-rights-movement-cafe-university-toronto
I've had a thought that most of the feminists I've known through the years just don't look too good. Don't get me wrong, I'm not opposed to the movement. I'm just seeing a bit of a correlation between feminism and ugly.
If they looked good, they wouldn't be feminist Just like if most Klansmen had a GED or HS diploma or an IQ higher than Paris Hilton's waistline, they wouldn't need to join a group of middle aged pot-bellied men in pee stained bedsheets spouting all kinds of eugenical crap, just to 'feel better' about having (*)(*)(*)(*)ty lives.
My feminist ex has a seashell tattooed on her inner thigh When I put my ear to it, I can smell the ocean
Basically there's no point in anyone identifying as a 'feminist' - the term 'feminist' has a lot of different connotations than the term 'woman's rights'. Other than maybe someone from Iran or Saudi Arabia, I'm not aware of any notable individuals who think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote, or have a job, etc in this day and age The difference between favoring women's rights, and being "feminist" - is perceived along the lines of "Muslim vs Islamist", or "Christian, vs Christianist". The word in and of itself indicates radicalism and hate
Yet contemporary Feminists claim all they stand for is equality At best that's a half-truth because contemporary feminists work for inequality where they percieve women aren't equal, but if the inequality effects men, at best they don't care (like the sentencing gap) and at worse they look at the inequality as a good thing (like the gender achievement gap at Universities) In such cases, the Feminist movement is not an equality movement, but a supremacist movement. At even worse, the feminist movement is a supremacist hate movement because feminists promote ideas that promote hate like rape culture ect. If someone cares about inequality when the inequality effects either gender they aren't a feminist. They are in egalitarean. Calling yourself a, "Feminist" today is like someone calling themselves a, "flapper" today, both terms are anachronistic and meaningless in the modern world.
It looks like my link doesn't work. In the story I tried to link to a feminist created a haunted house complete with severed penises and a ball busting room all funded by tax dollars, and MRA's were considered a hate group. Meanwhile a feminist promotes violence against men and rather than being arrested for hate speech, the feminist is awarded with money
So do rappers get tax dollars for promoting violence like feminists get tax dollars for promoting violence?
You were complaining about people who "promote violence" not getting jailed. You forgot that part quick enough. "Feminists get tax money for promoting violence". Your problem is not with feminists, pard.
No you're wrong. Actually when I said, "rather than being arrested for a hate crime," I was pointing out what would probably happen to a MRA who did something equivelent to what the feminist did, and rather than being arrested for a hate crime for promoting violence, a feminist is awarded with tax dollars. You see feminism and the misandry feminists promote is politically correct-so much so it's funded by the government. Meanwhile, MRA's are not politically correct-so much so that they were once considered a hate group by The Southern Poverty Law Center, and to this day are considered, "problematic," by people representing The Southern Poverty Law Center.
In Indiana, it's a felony to pull a false fire alarm, and anyone involved in a group that does it can be charged with the crime. The sad thing is, if a man did that at a women's rights rally, he would be condemned. This is the problem. These women do not want equal rights. They want to be given special rights while not being expected to have the same level of responsibility.
No worries, however its no hypothetical: women are given 63% lighter sentences for comitting the same offence and thats after being 20 times less likely to even be prosecuted in the first place Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases Sonja B. Starr University of Michigan Law School August 29, 2012 University of Michigan Law and Economics Research Paper, No. 12-018 Abstract: This paper assesses gender disparities in federal criminal cases. It finds large gender gaps favoring women throughout the sentence length distribution (averaging over 60%), conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables. Female arrestees are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. Prior studies have reported much smaller sentence gaps because they have ignored the role of charging, plea-bargaining, and sentencing fact-finding in producing sentences. Most studies control for endogenous severity measures that result from these earlier discretionary processes and use samples that have been winnowed by them. I avoid these problems by using a linked dataset tracing cases from arrest through sentencing. Using decomposition methods, I show that most sentence disparity arises from decisions at the earlier stages, and use the rich data to investigate causal theories for these gender gaps. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002
Are these women on the fringe- Advisors to Presidential Campaigns, Congresswomen, Authors, Editors of Mainstream Magazines, Professors?: "All men are rapists and that's all they are" — Marilyn French, Authoress; (later, advisoress to Al Gore's Presidential Campaign.) "I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it." — Barbara Jordan; Former Congresswoman "Men are rapists, batterers, plunderers, killers; these same men are religious prophets, poets, heroes, figures of romance, adventure, accomplishment, figures ennobled by tragedy and defeat. Men have claimed the earth, called it 'Her'. Men ruin Her. Men have airplanes, guns, bombs, poisonous gases, weapons so perverse and deadly that they defy any authentically human imagination." — Andrea Dworkin, "Pornography: Men Possessing Women" "As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women...he can sexually molest his daughters... THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE." — Marilyn French "I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." — Robin Morgan, "Ms. Magazine" Editor "Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." — Andrea Dworkin "All sex, even consensual sex between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." — Catherine MacKinnon "And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual (male), it may be mainly a quantitative difference." — Susan Griffin, "Rape: The All-American Crime" In a speech in Banff, Canada, Andrea Dworkin exhorted her audience to "stop men who beat women", "Get them jailed or get them killed. ... When the law fails us, we cannot fail each other." "Men, as a group, tend to be abusive, either verbally, sexually or emotionally. There are always the exceptions, but they are few and far between (I am married to one of them). There are different levels of violence and abuse and individual men buy into this system by varying degrees. But the male power structure always remains intact." — Message on FEMISA, responding to a request for arguments that men are unnecessary for a child to grow into mature adulthood "Women have their faults. Men have only two: everything they say, and everything they do." — graffiti frequently found on university campuses with active feminist movements From 'A feminist Dictionary', edited by Kramarae and Triechler, Pandora Press, 1985: MALE:...represents a variant of or deviation from the category of female. The first males were mutants...the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female. MAN:...an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched...a contradictory baby-man... TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... 'Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning."
I have never encountered a feminist who didn't want flowers or be put on a pedestal on Valentine's Day. I have gotten to the point that I think half the people on youtubes are poe's pretending to be the opposite of what they really are.
