Raid in the Interest of National Security

We have learned that Biden, at best, has been forgetful of having classified documents for seven years after the Obama administration, documents that he had no right to, documents that he, as a vice president, did not have the power to declassify. Since, at best, he was simply forgetful of the documents that we now know that he had, how are we to know that he doesn't have classified documents elsewhere? Thus, the FBI should raid all his homes, making sure, of course, to go through Jill Biden's underwear drawers. (I mean, we can't be too careful, can we?) After all, when Trump supposedly had classified documents after leaving the White House, this put national security in extreme jeopardy, at least according to the fake outrage of the liberal press, thus making the unprecedented raid on a president's private domicile more than just.

 

Hold on now...

We were told they found the Biden stuff on Nov. 2... not by the National Archives or FBI... but by the Biden folks... never verified or looked into....
Strange the SCI has to be signed for and removed from a SCIF and transported and placed in another SCIF.... The National Archive does not just lose SCI documents

 

Shouldn't NARA be disclosing how many classified documents are missing from the Obama years? Apparently they knew Trump had some when he left the WH.

 

My friend, my friend, the outrage mob, professionally known as "journalists," said that having classified documents is dangerous, being a risk to national security. At least that is what they said in Trump's case. Since Biden is so supposedly forgetful, shouldn't we want every nook and cranny searched, so those documents are back in their proper hands, and not risk him just forgetting about another batch of classified documents until someone happens to trip over them somewhere at some time?

It's like, it's like, the liberal press is full of ****. But, no, no, that can't be it. They're the vanguards of our democracy, right?

 

They knew that trump had documents and where they were located — and still many of you called it a fishing expedition. This is after a subpoena was ignored and trump and his staff lying about their existence.

But now you people want everywhere Biden could have folders to be located but cannot name where or what specific documents are being looked for after his team returned documents that no one even knew was missing knowing full well what it would cause.

If this proves anything to me, it is that the people of this nation made the correct choice in 2020 between the two options.

 

But his documents were just found. Now they keep finding more.

Some of the documents are controlled documents meaning they have to be checked out and returned. For someone they are not aware of the fact that those documents were missing. This says one of two things. Either their accounting method is flawed or someone made copies of those documents before they were returned and that is illegal. In either case, who knows how many more documents, not being properly protected, are out there?

 

That’s not really how “raids” work — you have to be looking for specific items detailed in the warrant and the subject typically has to be non-compliant

I know the right has a hate boner because their guy is a piece of human filth but I wish there was some logical thinking here — which I know, isn’t possible

 

Joe's cooperation in the matter, including turning over the docs that were found and initiating searches of his other properties, precludes the need for a FBI raid. The raid of MAL, approved by a magistrate judge, was necessary based on evidence of Trump's repeated refusal to turn over all docs.
You might want to consider the facts as known to the public before spewing another nonsensical post.

 

I think both Presidents should be treated the same. The Republican House committee should investigae both Presidents. If Biden lies about the documents or refuses to turn them over his property should be raided to secure the documents.

 

They would be looking for specific items. Those items would be classified documents which were not properly stored. It is really not that complicated. I rather doubt that they had a list of missing documents when they raided Trump's home.

 

Both Biden and Trump were wrong in having the documents. Both will be investigated. Hopefully the investigations will be made public. Neither will be charged with a crime. That's the best we can hope for.
-- Although their cases are slightly different, it's wrong and foolish to make excuses for what either Biden or Trump did. Best not to pick sides in this situation. Just condemn both to show you're a fair person.

 

The archives has specific missing documents with individual 1 — I also noticed you blew past the cooperative portions.

 

The National Archive does not just lose top secret and SCI documents...

The National Archive knew Trump had document immediately and contacted him...

Biden had top secret documents and SCI documents for 7 years and the National Archives NEVER contacted him..

Let that sink in

The Penn Biden Center opened Feb, 2018.... Biden left office Jan. 2017...

Let that sink in...

 

They were in Biden's possession for over five years and they did not miss them.

Some of the documents are controlled documents meaning they have to be checked out and returned. For some reason they were not aware of the fact that those documents were missing. This says one of two things. Either their accounting method is flawed or someone made copies of those documents before they were returned and that is illegal. In either case, who knows how many more documents, not being properly protected, are out there?

 

That’s why many Democrats are calling for a full investigation. If only both sides of the political coin had such integrity

 

Let’s hope that is the case because the alternative is terrifying

Which he denied, obstructed and refused a subpoena which ultimately let to a raid on his compound. Correct

That seems to be the case, yes

It has

It’s almost like people can move boxes full of files without knowing what’s in them… just maybe

Honestly I am less concerned with those than I am with the ones Hunter could have gained access to.

It has, I am not in a cult so I have no desire to cry foul because the president is being “attacked” — I wish both sides of the political coin had the same level of integrity

 

If the FBI has unlimited resources, I agree. If resources are limited I would say they would better be used where criminal activity has already been established (Trump, for example) and not with the person who has been willingly and eagerly cooperating to correct a mistake.

 

But the narrative is that Biden is forgetful. And he's not the only one who is supposedly so forgetful. The National Archives was apparently, like Biden, forgetful, too. And who can blame them, right? I mean, let's face it, who, at the end of the day, has not accidentally taken classified documents with them, locked them in multiple locations, and just, well, forgot about them for 7 years? I mean, whosoever among us has not "accidentally" taken classified documents with them for seven years, let him cast the first stone.

I kid, of course, but if the narrative is that Biden simply forgot, then I guess the logical follow-up question would be, "What else has he forgotten?" Remember, in Trump's case, the standard was that having classified documents was detrimental to national security. For goodness sakes, the nuclear codes could be on one of those documents! And that fake outage was used to justify raiding the residence of a president. Therefore, I am simply applying the standard and precedent already established by you folks. We keep discovering more and more of these classified documents in Biden's possession. How many more are there? Given how having classified documents can seriously jeopardize national security, the FBI needs to raid Biden's homes. They need to search Jill Biden's underwear drawers, checking every nook and cranny. National security is at stake here, sir.

 

Cooperation? I'm sorry. Did the National Archives demand that Biden turn over those documents? From how this is being reported, these classified documents from Biden were simply found and were reported. Are you saying that we should just let that be the standard for the return of classified documents in Biden's case? Are you suggesting that the National Archives and the FBI just say, "Hey, if you find any classified documents, just let us know. If not, have a nice day." Really?

 

I would not be so sure about that. I don't think Jack Smith's decision to indict or not will or should be influenced by Biden's case.

 

Who's narrative? I have only heard that on Fox. The narrative is he did nothing illegal and they have no idea why those documents are there.

No! The "standard" is that he stole and refused to return documents which, classified or not, belong to the people, and not to Trump.

That's not how the nuclear codes work. I don't know where you're getting all this nonsense (though I suspect it's from Fox or some other wingnut disinformation media), but I don't think you have your "narratives" straight. And that's where you should have started.

 

So, wait, he's not forgetful? You mean that Biden knew that he had classified documents, which he shouldn't have had, and just simply did not tell anyone, and that other people had to report that Biden had classified documents, and if those people never found them, then they would still be in Biden's possession, and no one would be the wiser? Is that what you are saying?

 

WTF? That's your response? Who cares if he's forgetful or not! Read what I SAID!

"Who's narrative? I have only heard that on Fox. The narrative is he did nothing illegal and they have no idea why those documents are there."

You opened a thread making false assumption after false assumption. That might work for Fox and their unquestioning audience. Doesn't work quite as well in a forum where you CAN be questioned.

 

In spite of what you may think, binaries do exist in the world, and in this situation either he was forgetful and didn't know that he had classified documents, which he should not have had; or he knew that he had classified documents, which he should not have had, and just did not tell anyone; and it had to be someone apparently tripping over the classified documents that he should not have had in his possession to notify the American people. So, again, which it? Is he forgetful, or did he know he had the documents in his possession, and didn't tell anyone?

 

Another option is he never knew they were in the folders to begin with — and we can use the trumps defense that they were planted.

So your desire that this is binary is absurd — very few things in life are binary and even fewer are absolute

Hopefully after a full and non-partisan investigation we find out how he had these files and what is being done to prevent this in the future.

Has his team have the integrity of trump we would have never even known they were missing. This only solidifies that America made the right choice between these two elderly men.