Ramadan – The Month Of Jihad And Martyrdom

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  1. notme

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    Again,... Only Judeo exmtrimisto zionisto's keep on deflecting on the topic of Israel when they can not defend their ethnic cleansing ways. This is a typical whataboutism.


    According to Jewish believe, their God murdered totally innocent babies through the land for the sake to get out of Egypt and go to Canaan. And also according to the Jewish believe their God supported the Jews with genocide in the land of Canaan. It's a very well known story that the Jew believes.

    And look at them Jews go in and outside Israel, with the Torah in their hand thieve and murder around to obtain the real estate of non Jews.
     
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  2. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Do you believe in the holy Muslim Quran ? i think the Egypt slaves story and their escape is also written in it ...
    What about Christians ... they also believe in the old bible ...
     
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  3. notme

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    Not relevant to how Jews behave towards non Jews in and outside Israel. And as far as I can tell, you're not disputing the religiously motivated violence from the Jews and why the Arabs have been oppressed for +60 years by being ethnically cleansed again and again.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't want to pee on your parade, but Isreal was created by secular Jews and orthodox Jews does not recognize Israel. According to Orthodox Jews only Messiah can create a country for Jews.
     
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    You can say whatever you want. But there was a fanatic drive to go ethnically cleanse 100,000's of civilians of one specific religion/ethnicity to create a religious ethno state of an other ethnicity. And the why is easily to be found in their religion. And that drive is still there. It is the only motivation why people would ever cross the border in an attempt to live on other people's land who would be killed by them over that if they get the chance.
     
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    Again, you forget to notice Arabs ethnically cleansed 100% of Jews and Jews ethnically cleanses only certain percent of Arabs.
    So the interesting question is why always you are making this errors?
    My explanation: Arabs are much better in propaganda than Jews.
     
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    Ah, that 100%. But that's just the small village of Tel Or and the 2,000 Jews from the Jewish quarter in Jerusalem.
    And you're equating that to the 100,000's of Arab civilians being removed from Israel and patting yourself on the back that it wasn't a full 100%.

    Very disturbing you think you can sell this nonsense as if the Jews were equally or the bigger victim of it all.
    It's very clear who is oppressing who, and you lot even find it justified to violently oppress a whole population based on their ethnicity.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    To me it's clear that the Arabs are oppressing the Israelis.
    With rockets, terror, crime and violence.
     
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    You say this, when the Jews have ethnically cleansed 100,000's of Arabs.
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    How many Jews Arabs expelled and deported in the Jewish Nakba ? 1000000 .
    One Million Jews from Arab countries.
    I don't see them all over the world holding stupid ancient door keys and demanding their houses and lands back.
    Next.
     
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    Muslims have similar beliefs as Christians do when it comes to god and jesus - they believe in the same God

    http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm

    (Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)
     
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    No. I am not patting myself on the back, i only show how Arab propaganda is better than Jewish one. Arabs wanted to expel 100% of Jews, but they lost the war, so now they complain that Jews expelled more than Arab expelled Jews - who did not expelled 100%, but expelled more Arabs, because they won more territories.
    Yep, blame Jews for winning the war and praise Arabs who expelled less, but anyway 100% of Jews.
     
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    This is combination of admitting that the average Israeli Jew has been violently oppressing Arabs in Israel and Palestina incl. East-Jerusalem, with a doze of whataboutism.

    But for the luls. Them Jews in Algeria were French citizens, unlike the Arabs. That gave those Jews not only a 1st class citizen status over Arabs, but they also fought along white French people to violently oppress Arabs in Algeria in a very very nasty war. The Jewish and white French adopted plenty of nazi tactics and killed around 1 million Arabs in that country. 8.000 towns and cities got erased from the map, and 2 million Arabs got death marched to concentration camps. What the white and Jews did in that one country is 1 on 1 flat out comparable to what the nazi's did to 6 million Jews on a whole continent of Europe.

    And when the dust settled, and the Algerians won the war, it indeed did mean all the French had to go back to their own country: France. Within the group of French citizens, the Jews were just a minority. Algeria and it's Arabs do not owe those people jack all. They in fact owe the Algerians a debt of 1 million dead people, 2 million people marched out of their destroyed towns and cities, and over a 100 year of violent racial oppression. Plenty of that scum left to Israel, with their colonial racist state of mind that it's normal to violently oppress Arabs they achieved:
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    And here you are crying your eyes out that the Jews were wronged in among places, Algeria.
    Your zionistic lies are old, my friend.
     
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    Your point was "you forget to notice Arabs ethnically cleansed 100% of Jews and Jews ethnically cleanses only certain percent of Arabs."
    And I basically showed you that in absolute numbers, the amount of Jews that got ethnically cleansed is hardly worth mentioning.
    It was just the small village of Tel Or and the 2,000 Jews from the Jewish quarter in Jerusalem.
    And FYI Tel Or was rather new artificially created town for industrial purposes.

    Your point clearly was to show that 100% ethnically cleansed vs only certain percent of Arabs, is making the Arabs the biggest culprit.
    Your point translates to that around 3,000 people ethnically cleansed is worse than ethnically cleansing over 700,000.

    Your problem is not that Arab propaganda is better. Your problem is that Jews committed the bigger war crime by far, and deny it towards people who know the Jews committed the bigger war crime by far.


    This is just Zionistic drivel to explain why the Jew is justified to expel 700,000 Arab civilians and thieve their property.
     
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    We agree.
     
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    Rather typical of people like you to go nitpicking posts out of context to end up saying "we agree" or something.
     
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    Your post is perfect proof of superiority of Arab propaganda over the Jewish one.
    What happened in 1948 in Palestine? After the UN declared the division of Palestine to Jewish and Arabs parts, Palestinians, supported by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq attacked the Jewish state. Arabs expelled 100% of Jews from the territories they conquered, Jews expelled only some. Jews won the war and conquered more territories than Arabs, so it is LOGICAL that they expelled more Arabs than Arabs expelled Jews. If Jews lost the war, Arabs would have expelled, as they promised -100% of Jews.

    Jews accepted all expelled Jewish refugees, so the Jewish refugee problem was solved in less than 2 years.
    Arabs did not accept Palestinian refugees, they kept them as second class citizens in refugees camps, where they are forced to live even today.

    After WWII, Germany was ruined but accepted about 12 million German refugees and the refugee problem disappeared.

    The 1947 partition of India into India and Pakistan created about 14 million refugees, but today there are no refugee problems there.

    And there are other examples.

    And now comes fantastic Arab propaganda: forget about logic, forget that Arabs expelled 100% of Jews, only remember Jews are bad, because they succeeded in what Arabs are dreaming of today! And don’t forget the poor refugees, they are still living in the refugee camps, and everything is the fault of Jews!
    Amazing propaganda – and very convincing! If you are not Arab, don’t feel bad, I know many people who without knowing the history of the conflict fall into this trap.
     
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    By you saying it's logical for the Jew to go ethnically cleanse around after a won war, means you support Jews committing war crimes.


    whataboutism

    I did not say forget that Arabs expelled 100% of the Jews. I said that the something like 3,000 K Jews being expelled from 1 recently make shift industrial town and the Jewish quarter in Jerusalem can not be compared to the suffering of 100,000's of civilians.

    That's just immensely worse. I called you out on your dishonest comparison. And you already forgot about it.
     
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    Wrong - what I am saying Arabs and Jews committed ethnics cleansing. If ethnics cleansing is wrong in you eyes - you should consider Arabs more vicious ethnics cleansers, but you blame Jews only. Why? Because Jews Jews won the war.

    Exactly - whataboutism. Why do you care so much about 700 thousands expelled Palestinians and not giving a damn about 12 million German refugees or 14 million Indian/Pakistani refugees? Because Palestinians are superhuman or because Indians/Pakistanis are under-humans? And what about expelled Jews? They are not humans?

    Dishonest comparison?
    The facts are that Jews expelled some Palestinians and Palestinians expelled 100% of Jews. Because Jews won more territories it is LOGICAL that Jews expelled more Palestinians that Palestinians expelled Jews. So at least Palestinians are as bad as Jews.

    The fact is that unlike other nations I quoted - no Arab countries accepted Palestinians and tried to help them. Did you ask yourself why?
    In 1970, Palestinians with help of Syria tried to overthrow Jordanian government.
    In 1975 fighting between Maronite-Christian and Palestinian forces started Lebanon civil war.
    In 1990 Palestinian leader Arafat supported Iraqi invasion of Kuwait
    Recently Palestinians in Lebanon try to start a war between Israel and Lebanon by shooting rockets from Lebanon on Israel.

    Are you surprised that Israel refuses accept Palestinian refuges, but is willing to pay them compensation for lost homes?
     
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    Wrong. I've been pointing that the Jews ethnically cleansed 100,000's of civilians so they could thieve their property, and it's not comparable to a make shift industrial town + some 2K in the Jewish quarter of Jerusalem. You're free to add 2 red pins to this map where that occurred so we all can see who BY FAR is the biggest war criminal.

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    Indeed it is. It does not change that the Jews are the biggest war criminal, by far and have been violently oppressing Arabs for 75 years straight making it totally impossible for them to have an independent self reliant nation. And in return the Israeli Jews get reminded of that constantly of the war criminal ways that they keep on supporting and get to live in a totally militarized society.



    Because they aint about to aid war criminals, and demand Israel to comply with international law and accept those civilians to return to their homes.
    While currently the apartheid state refuses to accept any claim of an Arab to it's property. But they do gladly accept it when a Jew want's it's property back.
    Seriously. How is this hard to understand?
     
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    Once and for all ... Please explain why you think Israel is an apartheid state ? Give us facts ... not Pro Islamo propaganda.
    Please explain why Israeli Arabs have no rights in Israel ?
    Please explain why some of Israeli Arabs serve in the military and some are in the Israeli parlament ?
    Please explain why Israeli Arabs have more BMW and other luxury cars than their Jewish neighbors ?
    If you have an issue with Ramallah or Nables - maybe Abu Adolf Mazen can answer ..
    Do you even know what Apartheid is ?? It's not hard to understand ..
     
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    One can make a very intelligent and compelling argument that Israel's rule in Area A in the West Bank is indeed in apartheid regime. Israel has one set of rules for Arabs and another set of rules for Israelis, and building permits for Arabs are very rarely ever approved. That is apartheid.
     
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    You are confused with area C.
    In area A the Palestinian Bedouins build what they want... where they want.
     
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    Disputing these facts is outrageous yet the Zionists have succeeded in convincing the majority of Jews to do exactly that.

    I hate to say it but some of what Hitler predicted turned out to be true. I'm not sure it would have developed this way had the Holocaust not taken place, that is to say, I'm not convinced it was predestined even with regard to the relatively small-scale sporadic pogroms. Although Zionism was already on the discussion table before the Nazis ran amok I strongly suspect that Zionism might have relied on congenial barter with the Palestinians and could have lived in symbiosis within the Arab state. But it didn't happen that way. The Zionists decided to vindicate Hitler's most popular predictions in "Mein Kampf" :bookdiva: Too bad.
     
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    Meanwhile in other threads you have said "Hitler was right about the Jews", you called for the Jews of the world to be ethnically cleansed, and today you called Jews "kiikes" and "filth semites".

    Irony.
     

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