Red Pill Addiction

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What is EAP?
     
  2. Yant0s

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    This isn't red pill and red pill isn't something you delve into or go deep.

    It's pretty simple. You learn a little about social dynamics. It offers a different view on male female relationships.

    You take from that what you want. It's just an opinion.

    Mostly red pill is about figuring out who you are, taking stock, figuring out where you want to be, challenging yourself and putting steps into motion/taking action to better yourself/circumstances (you don't do this by sitting behind a computer screen).

    It's about doing.

    Probably about 5% learning and 95% doing. Mostly building better life habits, it's just another name for self improvement.


    Lots of people get red pill totally wrong.
     
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  3. Jolly Penguin

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    Red Pill does speak some truth that is rarely spoken, but it also sometimes becomes its own enemy, especially with those who go so far as "black pill".

    I find it fascinating what the more moderate and rational ones have to say about dating and relationships etc. Hypergamy DOES exist. Women DO tend to want to date up social and financial hierarchies. The modern dating apps do yield 90% of the women's interest to 10% of the men. The same isn't true in reverse. Men WILL date down. The top men are spoiled for choice and have no need to settle down with a woman unless they actually want to and will have all the sex they want, which is often what they like, so they go from woman to woman and leave those women thinking they deserve the top men, never get commitment form one, while ignoring the bottom men, and wind up bitter and alone after "the wall" (meaning aging and losing their good looks - which is more important to men than society will often acknowledge). The lower 30% or 40% of men ARE invisible to most women. Men DO give better dating advice about how to get women interested than women do, as you ask a fisherman rather than a fish how to catch fish, etc. That's all true.

    But it leads some of these men to despair to the point that they stop trying. These "incel" guys could get attention from women if they went to the gym, had better hygiene and developed a better personality. No, they still won't get the attention of the hottest girls, but they will do better than they do when they simply give up, and start to resent women. The ugly side of them can emerge then.

    And also the whole smug hateful anti-incel reaction from feminists and the rest of society only makes things worse. These guys who are shy or ugly or socially inept are not monsters simply because of that, and we should have compassion and not hatred for them. We shouldn't shame them. We should have empathy for them. Then maybe fewer of them will float to the dark side and become the creepy monsters so many imagine them all to be (and most are not).

    And then outside of the mating game, there IS a social bigotry against men, against men's problems, etc. The typical reaction from a feminist and from most of society when men talk about problems they face is to either laugh at them or find a way to blame them for it. Men are more likely to be charged than to receive help if they call the police on a wife who abuses them. Men have been and still are excluded from many domestic abuse help services. Men ARE discrimated against horribly in family court.

    As women have ascended, social programs to help them have remained in place, and have now started holding men down. Income is surging for women. Education is surging for women. The opposite is true for men. Society tends to not care, until those women via hypergamy complain that they can't find a man on their level. Feminists call out CEOs being mostly male, but never ever will you hear them mention that sewer workers and ditch diggers are mostly male. It is parity for the top but not for the bottom rungs of society. That does need to be acknowledged.

    The media now rightly calls out misogyny, but misandry and hatred of men is in vogue. Its ok to hate men. It really shouldn't be.

    All of the above is true, but there is the danger of recognizing that and then sliding into misogyny and the blaming of women, etc. And we need to be mindful of that too.

    Cool rational minds can look at all of this and care for everyone, regardless of gender (male, female, or other), but sadly cool rational minds aren't that common I think.

    Anyway, that's my somewhat incoherent rant on this issue.
     
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  4. Jolly Penguin

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    I've always found "MGTOW" to rarely actually be men going their own way. People who need to declare themselves MGTOW and who talk a lot about it very very rarely actually are going their own way. There are entire youtube channels about MGTOW in which the guys never stop talking about women. That's not going your own way gentlemen.

    That said, I've was actual MGTOW most of my life, and didn't recognize it or have a name for it. I only started dating in my late 30s.
     

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