Regarding sexualized drag shows for LITTLE CHILDREN:

Well if that's true (and I'd like to see a breakdown by age and demographic) all that does is serve to remind me of the polling in place when the socially-conservative right-wing started to demonize the concept of same-sex marriage for political end.

There was a time polling around SSM looked like that but, in shining a light on the subject, the right wing quickly learned that, by doing so, they were having the opposite effect.

They shot themselves in the foot and it looks like they are going to do so all over again. Support for trans persons is high among the young. Bans and "don't say gay" bills have resulted in student walk outs once they learn it's their friends who are being unfairly singled out and picked on.

My guess is this will have a similar effect and in a few years time those figures will be reversed, just like they were once people get to know the reality of the situation beyond the lens of right-wing social outrage.

It happens every time.

 

In a few years the gender clinics and surgeons are going to be sued into oblivion and people will be horrified and amazed at the injuries inflicted on children by woke theology.

https://genspect.org/american-law-firm-launches-investigation-into-puberty-blockers/

 

Wow! You really must be deeply invested in this subject to have found access to websites such as this and to believe this is the trajectory the world will follow.

As I previously stated, discourse on this issue is closely following that which occurred during the same-sex marriage debate (and I'm pretty sure I remember which side you were on in that one!)

On the face of it, the site you linked looked pretty effectual: kinda like Focus on the Family, Traditional Values Coalition and National Organization for Marriage did back in those days. It's easy to be convinced by what they are saying if you are already of that mindset and in that bubble but once you do a little research you realize(d) their positions were countered by pretty much every major medical and social scientific organization in the western world. It was of further interest that the piece you linked was penned by (quote) "Written by a mental health attorney"!

You mentioned lawsuits. How many lawsuits were filed during the same-sex marriage debate and which ones were ultimately successful in banning SSM in the USA? Oh yes, that's right, none of them!

I really don't know much about the subject of trans people. I do think they are going to have an uphill (and ultimately unnecessary) struggle over the next few years in the US. That said, I repeat my contention that all the focus on them, the bills being introduced in various State Houses as we speak etc. will ultimately be seen as the same type of, largely religiously motivated, vindictive meanness that fueled the same-sex marriage debacle.

It may take a while and I'm certainly not going to spend the next ten years arguing the case on here like I did with SSM so I'll mostly just sit back and grab the popcorn.

 

I think 'girlface' (men dressing up as women) is misogyny. Actually I KNOW it's misogyny.

 

Yes, mocking the female.

Grand misogyny.

 

They're not communists.

 

love the cartoon, describes the right to a tee

 

You could be right but you missed my point entirely.

Do you think the notion of misogyny is what's driving the America right's crusade against trans folks and drag queens?

 

I don't know abut crank, but I'd like to know what's driving the trans and drag queen crusade against America. There's some very sick motives there and it can't be justified or rationalized.

 

So you say without proof, context or justification.

 

You seem to want to make a ton of items illegal based on your version of morality. Do you think the state should step in and take a child because those parents are teaching items you disagree with?

There is a huge turn against religion in many places across the US. Will you agree when states start removing children for teaching belief in the supernatural?

Or how about in areas that are pro-LGBT, should the state be able to remove children that teach hate to those populations?

Or are you the arbiter of morality?

 

Only because the overwhelming majority of parents wouldn't take their kids to a drag show.

 

With all due respect we have same sex marriage because of the courts not the voters. Oh and the same sex marriage state question in CA failed back in the back in the 90's with African American and Latinos providing much of the difference.

 

you can always find crazy extremes, I can find schools burning crosses into students arms, teachers telling atheist students they will go to hell, white teachers saying the white race is superior, etc.... but it's not the norm

 

Right.
This guy has the same problem, he's trying to prove the obvious to the oblivious.

 

Why are people who promote this sexualization of childhood education still involved with our children??

 

The poll demographics were 60% normal healthy adults. And, 40% groomers and other deplorables.

 

It's illegal to indoctrinate children to become Trumpers?

 

Making stuff up is easy.

See, you just did it.

 

Making stuff up is easy.

See, you just did it.

 

Making stuff up is easy.

See, you just did it.

 

Do you believe poll dancing is sexualization? Bondage clothing? Pumping and grinding genitals?

 

"Making stuff up is easy.
See, you just did it."

And denial is as easy as claiming the obvious truth is made up.

A working society depends on having a standard of reason, where obvious truth is accepted as real and nonsense has no place on the agenda. When you deny water is wet and 2 plus 2 is 4, then things become impossible and everybody loses. We've all heard of keeping the train on the rails, but the nonsense people have no rails; no concepts of guidance between rational and bat-sh*t crazy.
That makes me wonder if you are in that position, or just take the position defending it to be argumentative and disruptive. I think it's the latter and you know better... but I could be wrong.

The society you seek to destroy is the house you live in...... think on that.

 

Apparently you don't know much about how the trans train is bringing misery to children and their families. You might want to research it a bit.

You might find out that Sweden, Finland and Great Britain have turned against puberty blockers and cross sex hormones because of the injuries they cause.

It is the victims of the medical malpractice of trans healthcare who will bring the lawsuits.

 

I'm not the one being "argumentative and disruptive" and, since you've made this personal, I contend that would be you.

Drag queens and transgender folk used to be an accepted part of life. I can remember their existence right back to my earliest recollection which would have been the 1960s. Nobody gave a hoot back then and "sex change" operations were universally seen as a novel marvel of modern science.

I have enjoyed the fantastic comedy of Sir Danny LaRue O.B.E, Les Dawson and, my personal favorite Dane Edna Everage for decades and never gave it a second thought until the bigot brigade had to give up on taunting gays and instead turned their unrelenting bile toward cross dressers.

It will backfire on them. It always does, no matter the target. That's one thing I do know.