Remains of 215 children found buried at former B.C. residential school, First Nation says

Nope, failure again, next.

 

Yups
It has been documented that far more children died under the supervision of the Church and government than elsewhere, due to the very harsh conditions to even the prolonged medical experiments that were carried out. The church and government acknowledge their own documentation, and have labelled what they did as a genocide. With that, I debunked your claim it's a hoax.

 

This thread is about the bodies. You still can't seem to dig any up. Next.

 

Uh no. The thread was created by our Russia friend, and it is about the civilization of the west and them causing mass graves falling in the pattern of previous genocides, concentration camps etc etc etc.
And these kids did die. It's been documented by the culprits, who confessed to it and even labelled it as a genocide... disputing that opinion of yours thinking it's all a hoax.

 

“Others did it too” is never a valid excuse

 

Yet no bodies.

The actual thread topic.

 

It really doesn't make sense. To create that narrative, shouldn't there be evidence of it? I would expect that there would be a lot of evidence. This account shouldn't be that hard to actually document then.

 

Already replied to this circle jerk in post 221

 

Just like the nazi's documented what they did with the Jews, the church and the government too documented what they did.
Their own documentation is the evidence where the church as the government acknowledge that what they did was a genocide.
So it starts to be irrelevant that you think there is no evidence.
The victims point at the paper work.
The culprits point at the paper work.
The end.

 

And I copied the OP for you to remind you what the thread is about.

 

I corrected you what this thread is about in post 229.
The word genocide is in it. You called it a hoax.
I proved you wrong in post 140.
Full circle jerk again.

 

I don't get how you think you changed the thread topic.

Why didn't you start a thread on whatever topic you are interested in instead of hijacking one?

 

Imo it's an effort to establish a falsehood into a fact. If something is repeated enough by "credible" sources people take it as fact.

Worked well for the Black Wall Street "Massacre " activists that has educated the public on the totally made up number of 300+ Black's killed. Only 42 blacks and 29 whites are documented dead from that event or who died later presumedly from injuries...

 

hijacking what?
The OP "In essence, the European "civilization" is the civilization of the cannibals. Think of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the total extermination of peoples (for example, the Tasmanians), concentration camps, the extermination of millions of Indians ...."

and I proved in post 140 that this extermination happened in them Catholic run school with the help of the government.
Because you are here to deny it happened, just like a them fanatics who deny other genocides / holocaust.

 

Uh no. That is 26 + 13 died, according to the contemporary autopsy reports and death certificates, according to the Tulsa Reparations Coalition, and THEY estimated it later it could have been 300 also based on the death certificates.

So it's not made up. They looked at the paperwork. Just like in these concentration camps run by the Catholics together with the government: they looked at the paperwork and judged it all happened.

 

Notice the emphasis of the critical word 'could'. Not did - could. The records indicate that certain deaths were documented and in many cases a probable cause listed. But even assuming the cause are correctly identified that doesn't necessarily means the victim was subjected to abuse or neglect.

Pneumonia or scarlet fever for example were common causes of death throughout the world during the period in question, regardless of race, social circumstances or location. What they were NOT are a de-facto indication of systemic abuse or neglect. For that matter the fact the certain deaths were documented in the first place is hardly indicative of an attempt by authorities to conceal the existence and location of the children concerned. The opposite in fact. So if there are bodies they need to be located and the cause of death including any possible contributory factors such as neglect identified/confirmed wherever possible. That hasn't happened.

If the children died where they did, when they did and of the cause claimed then they deserve to have the truth confirmed. Failing to do so just leaves their deaths open to be abuse for political purposes and lets them be framed in away that suits whatever narrative someone wants to push. The children concerned deserve better. Their heritage deserves to be nothing less than the truth. The bodies need to exhumed and identified, until then all claims by both sides of the debate are hearsay.

 

Your post is wrong...false information. The number I gave was death certificates from the paperwork. The 300+ was a completely made up number based on emotion.

 

Back in the day those children died, it was documented that they died at twice the 3 times the rate compared to the whites. So yes, there were diseases killing a lot, but we're taking into account that there is a reason behind why a heck of a lot more children died in them Catholic concentration camps. The culprit has been found at the disturbingly harsh conditions which were documented back in the day. There are even witness testimonies about it. That the government held nazi like medical experiments on them for prolonged periods were also documented. So all in all, the exact number of who died exactly from what is not documented, not even all deaths even documented. Hence there are estimations on one hand done with statistics which is scientific. And on the other hand the documents that the governments and the church made themselves back in the day undoubtingly prove that their policies were genocidal. And the opinion that it is genocidal is not my opinion, but the opinion of the church and the government. So we got a full circle and science. Have a nice day.

 

It's based on the fact that documents were incomplete and others were destroyed.

https://archive.org/details/ReportOnTulsaRaceRiotOf1921/page/n17/mode/2up
That last fact is their defining element. Thirty-eight is only the number of dead that Snow can identify individually. It says nothing of those who lost their lives in the vicious riot and lost their personal identities in records never kept or later destroyed.

 

That's your opinion. And to quote the famous saying. 'Opinions are like *********s. Everybody has one. Your claims are not proof of anything. They are not evidence.

'Genocide' by definition implies a deliberate intent to murder or otherwise eliminate large segments if not all members of culture, society or race. That might well be the case in this instance. On the other hand it might not be. What is required is (one more time) is proof. Your reference to the baby food experiments in the 40s/50? Doesn't relate to the topic at hand i.e. the allegations of mas graves at various Catholic children homes.

And one more time. I'm not denying they exist . I'm requesting proof that they do exist. If you can't tell difference between those two statements? That's your problem and I don't need to bother anymore.

 

Oh is it?

Pope says genocide took place at Church schools in Canada for indigenous children
https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-...chools-canada-indigenous-children-2022-07-30/
House of Commons recognizes Canada’s residential schools as act of genocide
https://globalnews.ca/news/9232545/house-of-commons-residential-schools-canada-genocide/


I'm not the pope, nor am I the house of commons.
How about you read up on this topic instead of making these utterly dumb accusations, ey?

 

I didn't make any accusations. I just demanded the evidence. The Catholic Church and the Canadian Parliament accepted the claims made on face face value because those claims added to a large body of preexisting evidence supporting claims of genocide based on the traumatic impacts of European colonization on the indigenous peoples of Canada. Those impacts are a matter of historical fact. I'm not denying those impacts. I'm not denying the genocidal effects of the arrival of Europeans in North America.

What I am doing is demanding evidence proving a specific set of claims about specific set of events. So one more time. With reference to the specific claims made regarding mass burials in former Catholic care homes for indigenous children. Where is the proof that the burials occurred. Where are the bodies? The Catholic Church hasn't seen any evidence of them, neither has the Canadian Parliament and neither have you. As I said previously. If the claims are true the children and their families/living relatives absolutely deserve the truth to be known.

About those specific claims? Its a case of put up or shut up.

 

Once upon a time Dan Rather suggested he had documentation. Turns out it was fake. If these events had happened, it would necessarily have to be supported by evidence, mass graves, or other actual evidence that corroborates the documentation. If there aren't bodies, the story sure looks like a hoax.

 

Um... ok. so there should be graves with bodies in them that can corroborate your assertion. If there aren't, where did they go? It wouldn't be the first time that folks made up a much larger story to give the story gravitas... I mean, watch the current President pepper his narratives with obvious fabrications to ingratiate himself with the sparse attendance of his events....

 

Calling me a holocaust denier is proof that you have no argument other than name calling.