Rep. Cooper: We may have to arrest Postmaster General

My point is that Pelosi did in 2006 what she accuses Trump of doing now.

 

The Post office, it's America's GREATEST CONCERN!

“I just really don’t think ‘save the post office’ is the rallying cry the left thinks it is.”

 

so you are just rambling

 

They know Biden cannot win. Their plan is to contest the election and make Pelosi President.

 

The issue is representation by the people - democracy.

The issue is having a president who is repeatedly using the power of govenment to affect his own election.

 

Democrats are oriented to supporting labor.

Having unfunded pension plans leads to the practice of cancelling pensions when an organization is in economic stress. That IS a breach of contract that should be considered criminal.

Having public employees robbed of the compensation promised by the government is not acceptable. And, the business plan of the postal system has to recognize that.

 

Just keep on telling yourself that the Russian hoax was necessary to hide real Obama Administration era crimes.

 

The public sector in CA are being robbed by the Democrats.

Funding a pension plan is one thing but 75 years in advance?

 

Well, Trump isn't going to go for that, so her endless tantrums aside, she will not

The 27 Red States, with 260 ECV's, aren't going to go for that.

This election could come down to Trump taking all 27 of the Red States, and then needs to take either of the purple states of WI or PA, adding either puts him over 270.

PA and WI have Dem Govs
WI has had GOP majorities in the State Legislature for nearly a decade. If Trump wins the state, they will certify a slate of Trump voters for the Electoral College, for the House to count, and that, with single ECV from ME, puts Trump at 270 and re-elects him.

PA also has GOP majorities in the State Legislature, if Trump takes PA they will use a Trump Slate for the Electoral College and with the 260 from the Red States, would put him at 280 ECV, well over the 270 he needs to be certified as who will be sworn in at noon on Jan 20.

So, if Trump takes WI and either NH or CD 2 of ME OR takes PA, he will have enough ECV to be sworn in for another 4 years.

Per the Twelfth Amendment, Congress assemble in joint session to count the electoral votes and declare the winners of the election. The session is required to take place on January 6 in the calendar year immediately following the meetings of the presidential electors, so is a session of the newly elected House and Senate. If Blue States were dumb enough to conduct their elections in such a manner that they haven't figured out who won, then they would not be represented until the determine who won and they had been sworn in.

The Office of the Federal Register is charged with administering the Electoral College. The meeting is held at 1 p.m. in the Chamber of the U.S. House of Representatives. VP Mike Pence will preside. Senate pages bring in the two mahogany boxes containing each state's certified vote and place them on tables in front of the senators and representatives. Each house appoints two tellers to count the vote (normally one member of each political party). Relevant portions of the certificate of vote are read for each state, in alphabetical order.

Members of Congress can object to any state's vote count, provided objection is presented in writing and is signed by at least one member of each house of Congress, so Pelosi and Schumer can engage in all sorts of antics. An objection supported by at least one senator and one representative will be followed by the suspension of the joint session and by separate debates and votes in each House of Congress; after both Houses deliberate on the objection, the joint session is resumed.

A state's certificate of vote can be rejected only if both Houses of Congress vote to accept the objection, meaning the votes from the State in question are not counted. Individual votes can also be rejected, and are also not counted. So, Pelosi alone can't get ECV rejected. If the GOP retains the Senate, we should do fine through this part of the process.

Once all the objections are resolved or overruled, VP Pence will declare the official tally. This announcement concludes the joint session and formalizes the recognition of the president-elect and of the vice president-elect. The senators then depart from the House Chamber. The final tally is printed in the Senate and House journals.

Now, if no ticket receives at least 270 votes, the Twelfth Amendment requires the House of Representatives to immediately go into session to vote for a president.

Each state delegation votes en bloc — each delegation has single vote; the District of Columbia does not get to vote and a candidate must receive an absolute majority of the State Delegations present, so, 26 votes. There are 26 States with majority GOP delegations, so assuming that remains true, we should be fine, even if there were a contingent election in the House. The House continues balloting until it elects a president.

The Senate just straight votes, and the VP would be the one that gets 51 or more votes, and Pence probably cannot settle a tie breaker, though some have speculated that he can.

If the House of Representatives has not chosen a president-elect by noon on January 20, then the vice president-elect becomes acting president until the House selects a president. If neither House can produce a winner, then the Speaker would have to resign from House and the Speakership and assume the powers of the presidency until the House can produce a winner.

This is such a long shot, that I wouldn't worry about it. Now, if Pelosi presided over the Joint Session rather than MIke Pence, well, hell yeah, it would be a three ring circus, but, not with Pence holding the gavel, he is a very mature, reasoned and restrained, fundamentally decent man of honor. It will not devolve into a circus with him chairing the proceedings.

 

Thank for the excellent info and analysis.

 

No evidence of Obama crimes.

There is now a 60 minute segment on the Russian hack, proving incontrovertibly that republican operatives coordinated with, and received stolen documents and used them against democrats.

They are criminals. Receiving stolen property is a crime.

Hoax my ass. You haven't got **** on Obama.

 

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What are the odds neither candidate will get 270 delegates? If not, the house as a dem majority, so I'm fine with that. Biden will win immediately win if the house has a vote for president.

 

Biden will win if the republicans don't sabotage the vote, engage in voter suppression tactics, but they will. We'll have to see if they succeed. The entire reason republicans engage in voter suppression is precisely because they can't win any other way, as they know there are more people voting for democrats than republicans. No one wants Pelosi to be president, unless there is no winner on Jan 20.

 

It's failed to pay it's bills because
1. It's bootstrapped by republicans over benefits.
2. McConnell won't floor a funding bill.

the post office is established by the constitution, there is no requirement to make a profit. There is only a requirement to get the mail out on time.

Therefore, not funding the Post Office to make up for it's revenue shortfalls is dereliction by the Senate as the house has already passed a funding bill.

The PO announced that ballots might not be processed in time to be counted.

That's incompetence by Dejoy and republicans, but that is their goal, to hinder mail in voting to the the rise in it because of covid.

They know that the only way they can win is if they sabotage the vote, and engage in voter suppression tactics.

In summary, republicans are cheats, grifters, and criminals and/or derelict in their responsibilities.

 

The speaker of the house during that year was Dennis Haslert, a republican, so it was not a 'Democratic congress'.

Moreover,

The Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) is a United States federal statute enacted by the 109th United States Congress and signed into law by President George W. Bush on December 20, 2006.

The bill was introduced in the United States House of Representatives by Tom Davis, a Republican from Virginia, and cosponsored by Republican John M. McHugh

A number of dems voted for it, as well, so it was bipartisan. but, Bush signed it into law, and it was introduced by republicans, so they get the lion share of responsibility for that one.

And yes, Trump has admitted he is against funding the post office because he hates mail in voting, and the reason he hates mail in voting is that he will lose if more people vote. His stated reason is a lie and a ruse to hide this truth.

Rather than appoint a Postal Governing Board's approved PG, which must be approved by the senate, he has appointed a Trump megadonor crony to do the president's bidding as 'acting PG' who his curtailing services beyond which is wise and needed in an effort to slow the mail down, despite the lies they are telling otherwise.

Therefore, he is trying to destroy but another American institution.

 

1) huh? are you talking about the bill co sponsored by 3 dems
2) congress doesn’t fund the post office haven’t in 50 years. In May we didn’t give them a 10 billion dollar loan of which they haven’t used

yes they did...if people don’t get them mailed in time. Hence the warning...same warning went out in 2016

this is all just fearmongering by the left and looking for another conspiracy

 

Bullshit, and the postal worker's union chief explains what postal workers are saying, and what they are saying flies right in the face of Dejoy and republicans.
Not to mention that Dejoy has reversed the traditional and very patriotic policy of treating ballots as first class mail, a new policy not approved by the Postal Governing Board which is he not going to change.

So bullshit times 10.

 

what was BS?

 

MSNBC reports that an extremist liberal Congresswoman wants to arrest Postmaster General that has only been in office for just over two months for a policy that dates back to 2012. This is what they call fake news.

 

Fearmongering, the video of the union chief echoing the sentiment of postal workers tells a different story than your 'fearmongering' crap, the point of which that what dems are saying is legit.

 

The suggestion for the arrest was only if Dejoy is in contempt of congress, which is a legit reason for arrest.

That is NOT fake news, that is what she said (HE said, it was Rep Cooper ), and if that is what he said, the reportage on what he said is fact, and facts are not fake.


WTFU.

 

no it’s pure fear mongering. nothing is wrong with the mail

yes the union boss is concerned that cost saving measures are being put. into place it’s her job to be because they likely could mean more work for her people

 

That's the only place you can find them here. My Godson 25 years with the USPS says they are being phased out because they find everything including used condoms, fast food, dog sht and whatever in them..

 

And how would you know it/ballot or any of your mail made it's destination? In my many years I have always sent really important mail via certified with confirmation. I've also had a twelve thousand dollar check delivered to one of my neighbors that was good enough to do what the idiot mailman couldn't, so do I cherish the USPS, hardly! Snail mail is old tech, manual delivered garbage and trash paper ads.. All my important correspondence and month to month is done electronically..

USPS is pretty much useless for most people today..

 

I hear ya, clearly job opportunity, independence and prosperity has taken a back seat to the Democrats "Free Stuff" agenda! Then again who doesn't want everything for free with no labor required!