Rep. Flores to Newsmax: NY Times Incorrectly Calls Faith, Family Values 'Far-Right'

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    I’m against laws enforcing woke culture. Can you name some?
     
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    Indeed it is. It’s also biased, intolerant, and bigoted as well
     
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    Is the new republican idea of debate to simply make up the positions of their opponents and claim it as true even though it is a blatant lie?

    Such a fascinating narrative
     
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    Its almost like we have started having a basic understanding of natural phenomenon and events that we didn’t previously have.

    Why don’t you believe in Zeus?
    It is that exact reason why I don’t believe in your made up version
     
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    So she claims that the NYT is anti-god and anti-family because they gave time to AOC ? AND she makes the claim to Newsmax !!!

    The right in this country has officially jumped the shark !

    :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    Any time some politician has a gripe with what's written in the NYT, just say it was all made up. Odds are said article was!
     
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    Pronoun laws, they alrdy exist and were discussed here thoroughly with resounding support for them by the left.
     
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    Laws? People are going to jail for wrong pronouns? Do I dare ask you for a source?
     
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    Not jail, but they are and have been fined. And no it’s your job not to be so uninformed you are unaware this is happening, do your own research.
     
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    As far as I can tell, the headline is completely unjustified by the article. Here’s the NY Times article which doesn’t say anything like “family and faith are far right values”: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/06/us/politics/mayra-flores-latina-republicans.html

    Dare I say, fake news?
     
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    Yep. 100 billion people could have believed in it and it makes no difference. Belief is not fact. Belief is not proof. In fact, belief based on tradition is a path towards ignorance.

    You don't always have to know the right answer to know when an answer is wrong. For example, before we sent probes and men to the moon, if I had said the moon was made of cheese, you may not know what the moon is actually made of but you know damn well it ain't cheese. Religion, especially when it comes to the creation myths, is exactly like that. I don't have to know where we came from and how we got here to know that the religious explanations are far too neat and perfect to be real, because those explanations are far too human. And there's a reason for that. Humans invented them. But first we tried it with multiple Gods before our ancestors decided that was too complicated and weened it down to one. And now thousands of years later we look back on those polytheistic societies and chuckle about how wrong they got it. Like, duh guys, there's only one God, get with the program. Farther down the line, we may finally outgrow the security blanket that is religion and look back on us now and have that same chuckle. We're still young as an organized species, we still need our Santa Claus's and Easter Bunny's and Tooth Fairies, but we will outgrow them, just as children do.
     
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    Thoughtful post, but: I might be getting picky and off topic, but creation is a theory, postulate, or hypothesis, not a myth. And humans have always strove to find God and always will. It's in our DNA.
     
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    Can’t it be both?
     
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    Some have, certainly. Some people feel that spiritual connection, that presence of a higher power. Others were just programmed into it because that's how their societies were based. All your customs and traditions are ingrained with religion and god so it's just a part of you. It's what your parents or guardians taught you. And it could affect your community standing. In some places and times, not believing could be dangerous, even life threatening, and that's still true in some areas today.

    Creation hasn't changed since the concept began. It's the same today as it was ages ago. It was not formed as a hypothesis, theory, or postulate and probably predates the existence of those three words. They were creation stories for religions to shoehorn their gods into.
     
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    If you are referring to theory, postulate, hypothesis, and myth, technically no, although the dividing line between the four (especially the first three) can get fuzzy.
     
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    Man has always tried to explain things that it did not understand. That's when "god" began being attributed to it.
     
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    I'm getting too far off topic and into the philosophical weeds here, but it is enjoyable. I didn't mean that each and every human has exactly the same characterization or predisposition, but, like they are predominately born with two arms, they are widely spread predominately born with a latent search for God. Humans, unlike all other living things, always (99.99% of the time) eventually start wondering about their existence, the meaning of life, and thinking about who or what caused it all. They want to know those answers which makes them strive to understand God. This would be the case with or without any parental or societal influence.

    Yes of course creation happened however it happened. We just don't know what that was for sure but we think about it and try to figure it out. One of the ways we postulate or theorize is that some super natural being -- God -- simply created it, though there are different scenarios that are hypothesized about exactly how God went about it. Another way is that somehow physics just happened, and from a complete void except for one infinitesimal singularity the universe just exploded into being. There are others. Embedded in all of those is the underlying question of how humans came to be, which has it own set of theories, postulates, or hypotheses. But, and this was my point, no myths.
     
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    That's true. When all else fails look to God.
     
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    She had much ground upon which to stand to complain about how the NYTimes treated her in their coverage of her election. She also is right to compare how the MSM treated AOC like a model and a celebrity when she as a secular progressive won and how they dealt with her, an actual immigrant who made it to congress. And then there’s the issue of speaker Pelosi elbowing her daughter out of her way…
     
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    Too bad the article is behind a paywall. It’s headline alone justifies her claim as reported here
     
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    I’d see it as being part of Christian mythology and also a theory of how the world started.
     
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    The Rise of the Far-Right Latina
    Representative Mayra Flores is one of three Republican Latinas vying to transform South Texas politics by shunning moderates and often embracing the extreme.”

    Explain how you get to the news max headline from this. It doesn’t even have the words ‘faith’ or ‘family’ in it.
     
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    Of course.... The Democrat party only has a use for immigrants if they're willing to vote for Democrats.

    You need look no further than would be Cuban immigrants.

    They're already familiar with Communism and socialism and by and large they won't vote Democrat.... So it's back to Cuba you go!
     
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    Thanks for showing your bigotry about beliefs of others when they do not align with your own.

    And it's also no surprise who liked your post.
     
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    The progs certainly cannot claim anymore that they are the family values....

    They give us things like drag queen story hour and Men tinkling in little girls rooms.

    And trying to convince little children that they're the opposite sex they were born.

    People's children are not trans.... They're just impressionable children being abused. Mentally and physically
     
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