Rep. Smith (R-MO) holds a press conference on the Biden's. It does not go well.

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  1. Nwolfe35

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nbc-reporter-destroys-gop-lawmakers-011039254.html

    Part of the "evidence" that Smith presented at this press conference to show that Hunter Biden was getting help from his dad in the form of political influence, was a "WhatsApp" message sent from Hunter to his dad on August 6, 2017.

    It goes downhill from there.

    Ryan Nobles, from NBC, asks a very simple, straightforward question.

    Nobles correctly points out that in August 2017, Joe Biden was neither the President or the Vice President and, in fact, had not even declared he was running in 2020

    “If he’s not the president or the vice president at that time, where’s the wrongdoing? He wasn’t even a candidate for president at that time."

    "He was a candidate," Smith replied (No, he wasn't. Biden did not announce until 2019)

    Then Smith found out Nobles was from NBC and dismissively said, "So, apparently you’ll never believe us.”

    Nobles then replied that this wasn't a case of believing or disbelieving but, "You presented a piece of evidence that you say came on August 6th, 2017, that demonstrates that Joe Biden was using political influence to help his son. But he wasn’t a political figure at that time,” Nobles said. “The first WhatsApp message you put up — how does that demonstrate that there was some sort of political influence being put over him if, at that time, he is not a political, not an elected official?”

    Smith got defensive and said that he was “definitely not going to pinpoint one item,” only to have Nobles remind him, “You presented it! It was [the] first thing that you brought up.”

    Eventually Smith cut his losses and said, "I'll take the next question"

    LOL!!!!
     
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    Delusional incompetence on display at ALL levels of the GOP.

    There is ZERO fact checking, verifying or even plain old common sense anywhere to be seen.

    Essentially the GOP is a 3-ring crap flinging circus where sanity goes to die.
     
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    The exchange serves as a metaphor for hundreds of interactions between Biden's accusers and those asking for evidence of wrongdoing. They go something like this.........."He did it." "Did what?" "Acted corruptly." Where's the evidence?" "He did it." "Did what?" "Acted corruptly." Where's the evidence?" "He did it." "Did what?" "Acted corruptly." Where's the evidence?"
    Next question.
     
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    That is just... priceless. This is heading in the same direction that ALL previous "investigations" by Republicans went: complete and utter ridicule.

    For convenience, here is a direct link to the video.
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1707103282001277004

    If this goes on the same path as other Republican "investigations" they will drag their feet to keep the conspiracy theories going until after the elections. And then they will quietly release a "report" exonerating everybody. We've seen this before.
     
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    Why are you scared to have the House look into the dealings of the Joe and the Biden family business in 2017..... which directly reflects on Joe's decisions in 2020

    Where is the DOJ investigation into this?

    Remember... Grassely already called out the "delayed" payments until Joe left office.... then it seems in 2017 Joe's S-corp tax returns a $10 mil claim to books... WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN LOOKED INTO OR VERIFIED....

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fd_1023_obtained_by_senator_grassley_-_biden.pdf

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    I don't see a CONNECTION, just an UNSUBSTANTIATED allegation by a DISGRUNTLED former business partner.

    Get back to me when you have actual FACTUAL EVIDENCE because the above falls under HEARSAY in legal terms and WITHOUT corroboration will NOT stand up in court.
     
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    Beings how there are already multiple posts about the GOP release... let me repost what you obviously are not going to bother to look at... here is the release of 700 pages... and why the 2017 timeline has more meaning as it involves the DOJ IRS coverup... so please take the time to do your homework and get back to us...

    The IRS whistleblower then stated that they were blocked from getting a search warrant, even after the Department of Justice learned about the message to Communist Party official Henry Zhao


    Ways and Means Releases New Documents Revealing Hunter Biden Selling Access to White House, Investigators Blocked from Pursuing Evidence Related to President Biden

    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/even...d-under-internal-revenue-code-section-6103-2/

    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/bomb...pursuing-evidence-related-to-president-biden/

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    More on the DOJ coverup
    https://waysandmeans.house.gov/bomb...pursuing-evidence-related-to-president-biden/

    Documents show Hunter Biden and his business associates had access to the White House and Joe Biden’s advisors; Biden business associates were instructed to not “mention Joe being involved;” and official trips to Ukraine line up U.S. government actions and Hunter Biden’s financial bottom line. And, after the IRS began investigating these crimes, Hunter apparently “expected all of this ‘stuff’ to go away when his dad becomes President.”

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    Looks like your "does not go well" narrative is going down in flames... seems like the "no evidence" is following right behind...

    More DOJ coverup

    Hunter Biden was traveling the world to sell influence and access to the Biden “brand,” meaning his father, Joe Biden. Hunter has even referred to access to his father as “the keys” to “my family’s only asset.”

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    Here is a NEWSFLASH that seems to be MISSING from ALL of these UNSUBSTANTIATED allegations of yours.

    Joe Biden was NOT a Federal office holder AFTER Jan 20th, 2017 until we was INAUGURATED on Jan 20th, 2021.

    EVERYTHING you have posted DEPENDS entirely upon that KEY piece of EVIDENCE which is on the PUBLIC RECORD.

    Private CITIZEN Joe Biden was NOT using his "position" BECAUSE he did NOT have a position DURING this PERIOD.

    Sheesh!
     
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    Disgruntled Employee Makes UNSUBSTANTIATED allegations, Fake News at 11.
     
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    Whenever someone makes an allegation about Trump or any Republican for that matter, even from an unnamed source, it is immediately presented as "evidence" and every possible ramification of that "evidence" is then analyzed bit by bit with exacting detail from the MSM. Whether the person is disgruntled is irrelevant. Conversely, when someone makes an allegation against Biden, it is called an unsubstantiated allegation and summarily dismissed... followed by the inevitable claim of "you have no evidence".

    It is strange how that works.
     
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    Yes, it is strange that Trump supporters, for four years, dismissed every piece of bad news on Trump as fake news, or witch hunt. Now, they wonder when Dems do the same.
     
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    There can be a bit of selective retention from both sides yes. Although Im not so sure I have seen the right playing the "you have no evidence game". The right is more likely to be complaining about it being an unnamed source or arguing about interpretation rather than denying that any "evidence" exists.

    The important difference is that when the right does it, it is dismissed from a few specialized news sources while the rest gleefully spread that message. When the left does it, it becomes a news blackout that is only penetrable by seeking out the scant few news outlets that are rightist. They often even create a blackout on social media for good measure. There are a lot of regular people who have zero idea that any of this is going on. That is never the case in reverse.

    One cannot help but be exposed to the left interpretation, while the right interpretation is only available if perusing the 3% or so of media that could accurately be titled rightist.
     
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    poor Republicans, they have nothing, and they know it
     
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    Oddly enough I don't recall T**** ever claiming innocence only that he was allowed to do it or else they'd hunt down the leaker.
     
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    I'd love to hear what the guy behind said next. My bet is sorry that's all we have time for.
     
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    Huh? Which of the 102,349 allegations directed at Trump are you referring to?
     
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    Coming from the very poster who offer no rebuttal and liberal cheap talk..

    Here is the hard work of some one else.... spin away my liberal friend... don't bother with responding with your uninformed and baseless post.

    https://oversight.house.gov/release...in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...ublic-office-for-his-familys-financial-gain/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...e-tying-joe-biden-to-family-business-schemes/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...e-bidens-from-russia-kazakhstan-and-ukraine/
     
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    fake news, after years of searching for something illegal, Republicans have nothing
     
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    Good for Nobles!! This is what real reporters do-- politely but insistently, & persistently, point out bullshit, when politicians try pedalling it.

    Your snip encapsulates such a microcosmic representation of our current political state of affairs: the Republican Party is being dominated by politicians who are supported by a base who will indiscriminately and credulously accept the most ridiculous nonsense, as fact. So those politicians catering to this base, have lost their perspective on how their talking points sound, to any rational person, unencumbered with a devotion to the Republican "cause," of impeaching Biden and installing Trump as our new President (for life). It is so telling, that the reporter's mere stating of an undisputable fact, leads the GOP Congressman to respond, "So, apparently you’ll never believe us.” Translation: everything they contend about Biden, is only meant for the uncritical thinkers, of their base. Reasonable appraisals need not reply.
     
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    Again....Coming from the very "fake news" poster who offer no rebuttal and liberal cheap talk..

    Do you know why Hunter's business partner would be colluding with the Office of the VP on talking points that are to be released to the press about "no experience in the gas business" Hunter joining Burisma..

    https://justthenews.com/accountabil...nt-effort-suppress-biden-family-stories-began
    https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2023-03/NARA-Release-2_Supplement.pdf

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    nothing burger, there is no there there
     
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