Report: Obama Films Campaign Ad In White House, Possibly Violating FEC Laws?

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's in the OP, where is the money going?
     
  2. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again, I have seen the ad, the president does not solicit money.
     
  3. Atreides

    Atreides New Member Past Donor

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    Where? Where? Be specific. We both know there's nothing there, and yet you continue with this nonsense.


    What specifically are you talking about?




    I am asking you for the facts you keep harping on. Where are they?


    Where are the facts?
    Outline them! Stop evading, stop asking questions.
    Before we can proceed any further in this discussion, outline your facts.


    I am waiting for you to start presenting the facts. No sweeping, uncorroborated comments please. Facts, as you claimed.
     
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    Lulz New Member

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    So what do you think about Citizens United?
     
  5. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Now I do not know if he did anything wrong, but with a Casualty License the Law reads no gift or inducement [over 5 dollars] said or implied shall be acceptable. I had a raffle giving away a Motorcycle to stimulate business. I had to clear it with the Ins Department.
    Now you are correct he did not out right ask, but I believe it is implied, and the dinner is the inducement.

    Of course nothing says it is anything like our Law, but if it were illegal that's how it would be stated, ''said or implied'' inducement.
     
  6. Dan40

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    What the Hades does CU have to do with the most lawless president we've ever had, ignoring yet another law?
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your obtuseness of laughable.

    Read the article watch the ad which STARTS out clearly stating this is for his campaign. You have to by the ticket to get just a chance to get into the dinner and where does the money go?
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are you disputing from the article and be specific. That there is no ad? That the are not selling raffle tickets and the money goes to the campaign?

    What are you disputing?
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is about Obama's campaign ad filmed in an official office which is against the law.

    Stay focused and refrain for purposely trying to divert the topic to something totally unrelated.
     
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    daisydotell Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The topic of this thread is.Report: Obama Films Campaign Ad In White House, Possibly Violating FEC Laws? .
    You can either stay on topic, get your post deleted or be banned from the thread. YOUR CHOICE.
     
  11. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Yes, and like I said I do not believe he has to SAY it, but imply it. So if you are correct about the room then it would be illegal. The dinner is the ''inducement''
     
  12. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Insult duly noted. Odd that is what our argument has been reduced to.

    Your OP provides legal opinion, not facts as you have previously claimed. Counter opinions have also been provided, along with facts, such as precedent and the painfully obvious one that the ad does not solicit funds.

    If it makes you feel better to call me names because your argument failed, you go right ahead, but it certainly is not making your claims close to being accurate.
     
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    Your false outrage is laughable. Even as you condone Citizens United.
     
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    Has Obama gone nuts?

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    Obama strikes a pose similar to the fascist dictator of Yugoslavia, Spongebob Squarepants. Could we have been duped?
     
  15. Atreides

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    I am questioning your claim of the existence of 'facts'.
    Where are these facts? Cite them. Show them.
    Or are you ready to concede that all this is just a propaganda piece?
     
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    Not really. It's more of the same petty bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you guys wallow in.
     
  17. Dan40

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    A completely lawless president is a PETTY detail?

    Do you have any clue about the RESPONSIBILITIES of a Free people. All that's needed to lose freedom is for free people to not protect freedom, every day in every way. There is nothing petty about a president ignoring our laws. And this one does so much more than the last one did.
     
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    Sly New Member Past Donor

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    LOL... too funny. Yeah, let's protect freedom with more stupid laws.
     
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    Atreides New Member Past Donor

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    Care to list them down then, with corroborating facts, indictments, censures and civil suits as substantiation?
     
  20. Bluesguy

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    Observation, the OP with link to which you have been directed answers the question you keep asking.



    Yes strong legal opinion about the facts.

    Refute it.
     
  21. Bluesguy

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    Read the OP and the links.........................this will not be repeated.

    What are you disputing?
     
  22. Dan40

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    Tossing out bankruptcy laws in favor of the UAW. Would you count that?

    Losing Cap 'N' trade legislation and ordering the EPA to enforce the legislation he lost.

    Losing the Card Check battle and ordering the NLRB to find fault with business and to favor unions.

    Bribery and coercion to pass obamacare.

    obamacare unread but signed into law. We are discovering the foolishness of that each day.

    Same with the unread Stimulus Bill, signed into law unread. And now his squad of fired economic advisors all say it failed.

    Bombing Libya and Yemen and refusing to consult with Congress.

    Instituting a policy of killing enemy leaders instead of interrogating them. No new 'guests' in Gitmo in 2 years. All KIA.

    Patriot Act extension, routine adherence to and continuation of Bush policies that liberals went bat guano over when Bush did them, but approve of lawlessness when the 'anointed one' does it.

    And the beat goes on, he violates US law on a near daily basis.
     
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    I have read it, and I have told you those are opinions. There no facts there. None. Nada. Zilch. They are opinions. Personal opinions. Opinions are not facts.

    Yet you said there were facts. Where are you facts? Point them out. How can I even dispute anything, when there are no facts to begin with?
     
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    I didn't ask for the stock Tea Party Speech powerpoint notes.
    Everyone can make an unsubstantiated allegation. (And I see you even consider his alleged extension of Bush's policies as breaking the law. lol).

    I repeat: "corroborating facts, indictments, censures and civil suits as substantiation"

    One point that I would like to address though, considering the severity of the charges.
    "Bombing Libya and Yemen and refusing to consult with Congress."
    Just like Bush Jr and Sr, and Clinton, and Reagan - a president does not require Congressional approval to initiate actions against these nations.
    However, Obama's still went ahead and sent his aides and officials to Congressional hearings - ten times at least, and supplied them with extensive details about their activities there. No Republican congressman has publicly denied this, yet you keep hearing this at every conservative blogs. Why is that?

    I'll repeat this point one more time. All this wild slanders and uncorroborated accusations will make people like you and Bluesguy all warm and happy inside, but to independents like me, it increasingly forces us to disregard critics against Obama.

    You know what happened to the guy that cried wolf right? Imagine Obama actually breaking the law one day, and there was no one who will take you guys seriously anymore.
     
  25. Dan40

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    Liberals are invading this site under the guise of independents. You brainwashed automatons really think you're fooling anyone? How much does Soros pay these days?
     

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