So, by your statement: Then would you agree that a fetus is a person by at least week 22 when there is definite signs of brain functions in the way of a heartbeat, movement, hearing, swallowing, etc.
You refer to the fertilized I day old egg as a baby, maybe it is you that is confused. Oh and by the way it is not even a Fetus yet, hence I do not refer to it as that. - - - Updated - - - It is the medical community that does the defining, not I, or you.
Why not emotion, or if not that, conscience? You seem to look for answers in semantics, science, and some sort of abstract reality, perhaps of your own making. I think the answer lies in your heart.
Where did I ever say "fertilized 1 day old egg" is a baby? Here again is what I said: A 1 day old "baby" is a potential 2 year old "child", and the 2 year old child a potential 20 year old "adult". Yet, none of that justifies killing the 1 day old baby. Neither does it justify killing it a day earlier, when people like you call it a "fetus".
per·son /ˈpərs(ən/ noun 1. a human being regarded as an individual From the moment of conception and individual human being, a person
I disagree. Public opinion has always defined thing. You yourself defined a fetus as a person once brain function starts. Many would disagree with you on that....even in the medical community. There are many that do not believe a personage begins until birth. Myself, I am fine with your definition and agree with it.
My bad, I apologize for the mistake. - - - Updated - - - But they are not an individual, now are they
Good and so long as we agree with the cutoff date that is currently the norm then we have nothing more to argue. Wow, had to take the Looong road to get there, better late than never.
From conception, a unique individual never before on the face of the earth never again after they die.
Individual implies a Person, have you talked to an egg fertilized last night, strange they do not seem to reply or think. Oh and Individual also implies that they are a separate stand-alone and with a developing egg it is totally dependent on a real Individual.
And it didn't help when he said he's force rape victims and those whose life is endangered by a pregnancy to carry the pregnancy to term. Most of those in the evening debate kissed that papish ring. It's truly incomprehensible to me that any American would be so ridged, much less so many on one stage at the same time. Besides, it's practically irrelevant seeing that abortion has been legal for forty years. I mean, what's the purpose of saying, "If I were King, I'd force all women to carry their conceptions to term, regardless of rape or the danger to the health of the Mother." I'm really disappointed in them.
I was sort of hoping to see more discussion here on issues other than abortion or why should a fertilized human embryo be accorded all rights accorded someone living outside the womb. Like, who had the best economic plan for the country? As near as I could tell from Trump's response to a question about him declaring bankruptcy on four of his projects, costing investors billions, that seems to be his plan to get the U.S. out of debt - declare bankruptcy, refuse to pay, and write off the national debt. Jeb, OTOH, will raise economic growth and create millions of jobs, far is excess of his dad and brother combined or Obama. He bases that on what happened to the Florida economy when he was governor; he was elected in 1998 and re-elected in 2002, serving until January, 2007. Somehow he never mentions (nor would the Fox moderators have the temerity to mention) that the magic of the Florida economy during that period was built on an economic house of cards perpetrated by bankers and sharp operators. And when it crashed, all of those wonderful "miracles" he loves to talk about simply vanished leaving Florida far worse off. Huckabee will rely on the Fair Tax to fix everything. Lord help us.
Dems have the criminal and the commie. What a choice! LOL criminal isn't trusted by 54% of voters and I am sure that will only go up...
Please list her criminal convictions? Dislike her if you wish, am no fan of hers, but when you Lie you lose all your credibility.
His Dad's term was one of economic growth and prosperity that began in the Reagan years but was slowed down by the tax increase the Democrats forced (the one where they did not come through on their promised spending cuts). His brother came into office during a slowdown that turned into a recession within weeks of his taking office, the dot.com bust and then 9/11 hitting just as we were coming out of that recession. His policies helped to usher us through that recession with a peak unemployment of just 6.5% for one month and a deficit peak of $400B. Then the jobs were created to fill the ones that were lost and we had 52 months of full employment of rising labor participation. There was no need for a massive new job creation as everyone was working already. That also produce more tax payers, rising incomes and they brought the deficit down to a paltry $161B. Then the Democrats took control in 2007. So how did they do during the 8 years they had control?
That happens at about the 12th week of pregnancy. Would you agree the fetus should be given an electroencephalogram before any abortion and if there is brain activity and a heart beat there should be no abortion?
Nope, the brain is only doing basic functions at that point, the YOU (frontal cortex) has not yet developed.
You seem to be conflating a legal bankruptcy in the U.S. with a nation declaring bankruptcy in an attempt to demean Trump. They are nowhere near the same. For instance, the U.S. cannot just 'write off' its debt to foreign countries and get a 'fresh start' which is what the U.S. bankruptcy laws offer individuals and U.S. businesses. 'Bankers and sharp operators?' Do you have any actual proof of this. (no Daily Kos please)
So is someone is in a coma and their frontal cortex is no longer functioning and has atrophied is it OK to have sex with them and it would not be rape because they are no longer a human being?
Well, neither is a Democrat, that's for sure. I'm a Republican, and I consider them both Republicans. They are the opposite ends, IMO, of the GOP perspective. Personally, I really like Kasich. I care much less about the social issues than the fiscal ones. IMO, if you think gay marriage and/or abortion issues are the biggest problems this country faces and our top priorities (no matter which side you're on), then IMO you're stupid. I understand that to govern a nation, compromises must be made. I am not a big fan of the moral majority type Republicans, but I will still vote for one of them ANY day over a Democratic candidate. I disagree with too many underlying fundamental issues of the Democratic party. However, it is absolutely TIME with the next presidency to take on some of the big third rail issues like immigration, tax code reform, balancing the budget and entitlement spending. No more putting this off and occupying people's time with stupid "social" issues that don't really affect the majority of people but EVERYONE has a hot-button opinion about them. I'm sick of the smokescreen.
