Republican strategy for the changing Demographics

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  1. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Here is my take on the future of the Republican party in the demographically changing USA.

    1. Chinese Americans, last census put their number close to 4 Million, and since grown significantly. This group is heavily invested in small businesses meaning they would understand the low tax small government message, kids go to Colleges where they face racism from affirmative action. They mostly live in big cities and might give the republicans the extra numbers they need to be more competitive in those regions.

    2. Indian(sub continent) Americans, around 3 million and growing rapidly. This group is highly represented in small business, and High tech industries and would also benefit from Republican fiscal policy. Their children also victims of affirmative actions, and they are socially very conservative. This group can help with campaign financing, and be a good growing demographic.

    3. Jewish Americans, around 4 million, this group has been heavily Democratic but with the Democratic rapid turn away from Israel I think this group can be in play.
     
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    Not long ago my wife was helping an avid Democratic Party Korean-American girl with a high school research paper, Oh but she was adamant about how greedy and racist GOPers were, this child of wealth herself by the way, and then she got assigned to research Affirmative Action by a history teacher. Then in the course of doing research she discovered to her horror that she with her damn near 4.0 GPA WAS automatically going to be penalized by Affirmative Action in college admissions where other minority types were concerned BECAUSE she was a stereotypically overachieving Asian student. The beauty of this is that she made all the discoveries on her own. Overnight she switched from damn near being a radical leftist to being a moderate Republican.

    So yes there are interesting trends but in the face of those trends you have the Left-Allied Mainstream Media pushing the Dem Party for all they are worth while endlessly intimating in contrast that the GOP is filled with nothing but racist and greedy Whites and a handful of duped minority types; and the deal about the press when the Fourth Estate has essentially become a Fifth Column ideologically loyal to one party, is that propaganda usually beats out rational thought processes, which is why propaganda is so popular with the Left's leadership and operatives. It's been proven over the course of many decades to mostly work most of the time. Sigh . . . and so it goes.
     
  3. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    I bet she changed her mind real quick, I think the GOP should stop thinking of how to attract loser Aztecs, and MS13 members and start reaching out to the succesful immigrants.
     
  4. Lil Mike

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    Interesting points, but I don't think they are going to pan out.

    Asian Americans used to be owned by the GOP, but they've been drifting to the Democrats for years, and I suspect that will probably be that way for a while. Indians are split, but the fact that not one but two deep south states have GOP Indian American governors has flipped Indian politics to the GOP. I think for Asians, the newer immigrants are less Christian than the older ones. For Asians, the GOP has a pretty good lock on Christian Asian Americans but not the others, and the others are an increasing percentage. Again, I think religion makes a difference with the Indians. GOP Indians tend to be Christians.

    For Jews, although I agree they are in play, I think any major switch would be generational. Unless Iran nukes Israel, Jews will only slowly move to the GOP slowly; just a bit each election as a younger generation has less connection to an increasingly anti Semitic Democratic party. Republicans already own the Hassidics. But the number of votes is small and even if all Jews switched to the GOP, it won't put any States into play for Republicans.
     
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    its seems you people dont understand Affirmative action
     
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    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    I agree the GOP messaging and outreach to those communities is lacking, a lot of it has to do with the misuse of time and the idiotic outreach to blacks and latino's. That Latino Black handout population is inherently pro democrate , and no amount of outreach will work. On the other hand if the GOP moves away from Religion, and more into economics, ending Pro black programs(affirmative action), talking about private schools vouchers etc etc. I bet the GOP can even go for the Caribbean blacks who are far more socially conservative and religious.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States


    an Asian is a minority


    AA is not just for black people


    how can you people not know that?








    Affirmative action in the United States tends to focus on issues such as education and employment, specifically granting special consideration to racial minorities and women who have been historically excluded groups in America.[1] Reports have shown that minorities and women have faced discrimination in schools and businesses for many years and this discrimination produced unfair advantages for white males in education and employment.[2] The impetus toward affirmative action is redressing the disadvantages[3][4][5][6][7] associated with past and present discrimination.[8] Further impetus is a desire to ensure public institutions, such as universities, hospitals, and police forces, are more representative of the populations they serve.[9]
     
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    Chinese Americans voted 81% for Obama.

    Indian Americans voted 84% for Obama.

    Jews are not monolithic, nor are they single issue voters. Many Jews oppose Israel.
     
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    do all right wing people think AA is just for black Americans?
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    I agree that spending millions on outreach to Blacks and Hispanics as Blacks and Hispanics is probably wasted. Rand Paul wrapped his campaign strategy around getting Blacks, felons, college kids and potheads to carry him to the Republican nomination. Thats why he's sinking. But economics is not going to help. The country is evolving into identity group voting, so people are voting for parties that cater to their own ethnic groups. The Democrats have known this for a while but Republicans think they can convert people based on policies that are not give away programs. I would call that a failure at this point.
    As far as tossing out religion, that's probably the only reason that those few Asians and Indians are voting for the GOP, because they are Christians. There are plenty of evangelicals who only vote because of abortion. Get rid of religion and you're looking at a Rand Paul party; in other words, a permanent minority party.*




    * a permanent minority party now, instead of waiting a few years-to clarify.
     
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    the Dem party platform is written by people of all colors.


    what color people are allowed to write the republican platform?
     
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    The Republican platform can be written by anyone of any race. It is written by whites because the Republican party is predominantly white.
     
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    Yes I realize that those groups now vote Democrate, but they are prime groups to transfer over to the GOP since their interests perfectly line up with conservative principles.
     
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    It is only for Blacks , "latinos" unless your Spanish,and descendant of the feather Indians.
     
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    If any group is going to flip from supporting Democrats to supporting Republicans, it's going to be Latinos. Republicans have won upwards of 40% of the Latino vote on several occasions. If they started supporting immigration reform, they could seriously compete with the Democrats among Latino voters.
     
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    Oh yeah, she was freaking outraged and she altered her entire politics as a result.
     
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    Hah, the weepublican strategy at this point is; don't die. The generation coming up is more liberal in thought and deed than any generation before. Today's young people just don't share the bigotry and xenophobia that modern conservatism is founded on. Right wing economic policies have failed, leading to inequality on a grand scale. The right wing social agenda is a dinosaur outside of religious nutbags, again who are also fewer in number (thankfully).

    They can keep shouting tax breaks, bibles, and guns for a time. That appeals to a good percentage of the uneducated yokel population.That number is shrinking, fast.
     
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    If a shift away from traditionalism spells doom for the conservative movement, explain the continued existence of the conservative movement. Every generation since the Age of Enlightenment has moved away from conservatism, but conservatism still exists and is a powerful force in politics.
     
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    Democrats Reject God at D.N.C. Convention 2012.

    But that's not how the Democrat Party works. The truth is, only a few decides what the DNC platform will be. The DNC Convention is a charade.

    [video]https://youtu.be/N9ha9o24Pfw[/video]
     
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    If you look at the race relations the way you do, then you will realize too that all the people of color will be voting if they have their citizenship. there are many who do not have citizenship, so will not be able to vote.

    If you were to observe that all parties promise different things, yet do the same things nearly, then you will know that there is going to be little change. the way things go, it takes about two years to undo what the previous administration did, then start your own. this means that there is not enough time to make changes you promise, so, the administration or leaders get replaced.

    This is because the leaders have other goals than the people know of. i know that it was suggested in my country like three months ago to hold pubs in charge of how they let people drink, and, they actually took three months to get this passed. i mean, that comes to like maybe six motions a year, yes? this is awkwardly slow.

    To speed things up, we need to have a more agreeable 'voting system.' if something doesn't work, they should move onto something else, and redo that the next day. this would see them get through much more stuff each day - just a simple vote. no speaking! speak at the beginning, then cut the microphones and vote. to gather the information, this should be done after noon, after voting, yes? that would leave from noon till nine am each day to read the research. research should be cut down by using names and numbers only, with a 'key' to minor adjustments from what they usually read, of course.

    The agenda of the leadership is to take care of their lifestyle. this is true for every person in the world - nobody gets a job to do the job because they have nothing better to do, they get the job so they can afford to have the things they want or perks. if the people were to walk in and say they will find a way to remove the ability of those in charge to receive these things they want if they do not come to a resolution soon, emptying the 'in box' of the state, then that would be good.
     
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    Conservative principles is an oxymoron.
     
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    Every generation has moved away from Conservatism but then they get old. Liberalism is the philosophy of the young and Conservatism the philosophy of the old. And the US is aging which may provide some hope for the Conservatives.
     
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    Basing your political affiliation on a single issue is not really a sign of deep thinking.
     
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    Of course, support of the latter for the US/UK/Germany/France/Russia/China deal wit Iran indicates their subservience to LIkud is not what hardcore Republicans might wish.

    Rather than the GOP passively indulging in wishful thinking that the diverse demographics (including younger and better-educated Americans) that support the Democratic Party will suddenly become enamoured of the aging 90% White one at some point, I fully expect that the GOP will shift to reflect the views of the voters.

    It's an existential imperative.



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    I only agree with affirmative action in cases where discrimination has been proven against the offending party. It should be a reactionary corrective measure, not a preemptive across the board blanket measure.
     

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