Republicans and Teapublicans

The so-called "Tea Party" is best described as a contemporary coalition of people who love Jesus and/or hate President Obama. Their common objective is to replace the American Republic with a Christian Theocracy and to replace Obama with a white, anglo-saxon protestant. Conservative Republicans, on the other hand, are those who seek to acquire as much wealth as possible, including whatever they can extract from others, by any means available (traditional Republicans represent the party of Lincoln but have no influence within the present-day Republican Party). Conservative Republicans were decidedly on board when it came time to bail out the banks to save the world economy (and their personal assets). Such objectives and interests define the essential difference between "Republicans" and "Teapublicans". These people, except for being "mad as hell", have nothing in common. They're not even "mad" about the same thing. The best they can do is object to "big government" and "big spending", with no attempt whatsoever to define "big". Likewise, we hear a lot about "high taxes" and "low taxes" with no attempt whatsoever to define "high" or "low". Consequently, they cannot construct a coherent course of action as applied to anything! They can however, agree on this: "It's time to restore what is free, good and right about American", (Sarah Palin, 9/5/2011). A few readers may not know what that means; but they know exactly what that means! In fact, most of us know what that means. Such knowledge is fuel for the continuing debate over deliberately ill-defined "values".

 

Oh joy, another "Tea Party/republicans are the devil and I hate them" threads.

 

TEA = Taxed Enough Already.

It has absolutely nothing to do with anything you just said. And everything to do with congress on a runaway spending spree. Tea partiers want less taxes, for one reason or another depending on the person. Some want the money they earned, some want less spending aswell, some want smaller government etc.

It's not a fringe extremist party either, nearly 25% of them are democrat or independent. And as a whole, they have as many people in support of lower taxes as Obama has approval rating.

 

Say what you will, but his comments make a lot of sense, particularly if you take the time to look at the background of the Republican candidates.

America may be ready for change, but not that kind of change.

 

No...that is the point. The comments don't make sense. The post is pure ignorance or could be construed as an attempt at dishonesty...leading other ignorant people astray.

 

Even though taxes in your country are incredibly low? The Tea Party in America seems to be pretty uninformed about taxes.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/are-taxes-in-the-u-s-high-or-low/

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/18/tea-party-ignorant-taxes-opinions-columnists-bruce-bartlett_2.html

 

Your "well-information" doesn't include state or city taxes. I pay 50% of my income in taxes. Thats taxed enough. That's why I support the tea party ideals.

20% fed income, 15% state income, 10% ss, 4% medicaid, thats 49%. Add in sales tax, property tax, fees, registration, taxes on the business I buy from, I am far over 50%. I don't need any orwellian "news" organization to tell me I'm not taxed enough. Especially when they can't get something as simple as state taxes into their "news."

I wonder how many democrats paid those media outlets to put those stories out?

Here in the *states* we have these things called states, you might be unfamiliar with them up there in Canada. But because we have states, the federal government is slightly less than half the picture of our government. Your "well-informed" source is including less than half the picture.

 

I am a neocon. I support many of the goals of the tea party, but I do not hate Obama and I am an atheist. I dont care about Jesus's opinion on anything.

So much for stereotypes eh?

 

I am an atheist and I support the Tea Party. I don't find Christians any more "faithful" than the Obama Leftists and Liberals.

Our taxes are not low. All fools from other countries ever look at would be the federal income tax. Of course, even there, corporate income tax is the second highest in the world.

 

Federal revenue is at dismal levels, not tax rates. On the contrary, the United States has the second highest corporate income tax rates in the world. Japan has the highest corporate income tax rates. Furthermore, our effective corporate income tax rates are some of the highest in the world, which for job creation and private sector development is very bad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/economy/03rates.html

http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb_1008-50.pdf

The United States' highest income tax rates is around 35.0%, which is relatively high. However, the effective income tax rates are around 16%-17%, a relatively low amount considering the responsibilities the United States has.

http://www.kpmg.com/Global/en/Issue.../Documents/Individual-Income-Tax-oct-2010.pdf

Therefore, a lowering of the corporate income tax rates, a lowering of the marginal income tax rates, and elimination of tax loopholes and tax expenditures is the proper approach to increase federal revenue while promoting private sector growth.

 

Then why is all the rage against the federal government?

 

Taxes have still gone down under Obama.

 

Either way, individual income tax rates have decreased since Bill Clinton, but they have remained the same since George Bush implemented the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_tax_cuts

http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

In terms of federal revenue, in Obama's first two years as President, federal revenue has decreased to 14.9% of the GDP, or an average of 2.13385 trillion dollars. This is not due to the "low" tax rates, but a lack of effective tax rates.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=200

The United States could generate so much more federal revenue with lower tax rates on an individual, household, and corporate level. However, by doing one of the two extremes, which is raising tax rates without regard for the consequences to businesses, and without acknowledging problems with tax loopholes and expenditures, or cutting taxes without acknowledging tax loopholes and expenditures, we are holding the federal government and the private sector back.

 

1)Do you consider yourself a tea-partier?

2)Do you admit taxes have gone down Under Obama?

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/are-taxes-in-the-u-s-high-or-low/

 

The Tea Party is just a group of very uneducated people that are voting against their best interest. Luckily they have us Democrat's, who will protect them whether they like it or not!!

 

I have no faith in the democrats.

 

No, I am actually a Democrat, and I stated that federal revenue went down under Obama, you are just utilizing the wrong phrase. Instead of taxes, the proper term is federal revenue.

 

Why do you think that is the case?

 

Fair enough.

 

You, like the OP, are a partisan hack with absolutely no knowledge of the TP.

 

Admittedly I don't know everything about the Tea Party, but what I do know about them is enough for me to realize that they will be bad for America.

 

"It has absolutely nothing to do with anything you just said. And everything to do with congress on a runaway spending spree."

That may be true; but if so, it raises a question as to why the so-called "Tea Party" and the alleged "runaway spending spree" suddenly and inexplicably appeared at the same time Barack Obama became President Obama. Should we call this a coincidence, bad timing or what?

 

Only I know a thing for sure. If neoliberalism continues winning like that, the number of unemployed and poor in USA and all the civilized world will be increased in great numbers.

- Neoliberalism: Are the ones that defend a strong free market, that is tea party, republicans, libertarians, conservative....

USA only will become poorer, and with more inequality and social problems. Enjoy what you elect.

 

Some people are and some are not. If the system by which we tax everyone is not revised, my claim will remain valid.

The fringe "elements" of the Tea Party are substantial AND influential; in essence, it is all "fringe" enough, to be trouble for America.

Lower taxes is being debated as THE solution; it is not (absolutely) determined to be America's primary solution to the problems it is facing. Right now, there is good reason to bolster revenue... rather than reduce it further.

 

Do you just make up definitions for things that you don't like? Because there are so many things factually incorrect about this post that I can only assume it was done on purpose. Can I play? Liberals (or "progressives" as they like to call themselves) are three feet tall mushroom-headed creatures with purple skin and one nostril. And they all answer to the name Bertha.

That's fun. I see why you do it.

LOL! And you people wonder why you get called elitists. Do you ever actually listen to what you are saying? Go back and re-read your post real quick and see if you can spot the arrogance.