Republicans in key battleground races refuse to say they will accept results

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    Yup. The Republicans have spent all their energy doing nothing on their own but trying to stop their opposition from actually leading and doing things.
    Mitch M announced the Republican party platform when Obama got into office: The only goal of the Republican party is to see to it that Obama is a one term president.
    How did that work out for you ?

    The Orange Stain created a cult and did more pissing on the Constitution and our tradition of free, fair and secure elections than anyone in history.
    How do you think that will work out for you in the decades to come ?
     
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    The incompetent, angry, divisive old man is presently in office. If elections were truly at risk, he wouldn't be but he is. In much the same way Trump's litigation of the 2016 elections wasn't of consequence, neither is this. Instead of fighting ghosts, I would like for the President to address the serious issues of this country.

    The function of government is not whether people win or lose elections, or even if people accept election results. The function depends on the capacity of the people in it. And clearly in this regard, the American Government lacks functioning.
     
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    I have addressed it head on, why do you actually debate the issue and respond to what I post?

    So I ask again will these Dems accept the results of the vote count NO MATTER WHAT. They will not challenge for challenging means you have not accepted the results.

    Who would be foolish enough to make such a statement in light of WHO KNOWS what will happen in an election. Or is this like Gore and H Clinton claiming they accept and then go around for years and years insinuating they really won?
     
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    The incompetent, angry, divisive old man got voted out of office and is an Orange Stain on the country. He needs to be made an example so as to discourage attempts to subvert our republic with it's own rules.

    The function of government depends, in part, on free, fair, and credible elections.
     
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    You have not, in any way, addressed the issue of why the 19 Republican candidates refuse to say they will accept the results of their elections.
    Are they setting up a false claim of voter fraud if they lose ? Is this the new normal for Republicans ?

    Since you have changed the question by adding "no matter what", go ask the 19 Democrats running your new question.
     
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    Well, we've got Stacy Abrams running for governor again, even though she never accepted the election results from the last time she ran for governor and lost.
     
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    I did repeatedly go be obtuse with someone else.
     
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    The article didn't say that this was their motivation or position. We'll take it as a guess.
     
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    False and you can't quote him making that pronounce right after Obama took office. He said it after the midterms when they won back the House. He was speaking to campaign workers as the results were announce telling them their next goal would be to win the White House back in two years. Now explain why that wouldn't be their legitimate political goal as the opposing political party. Do you think in 2019 the Democrats didn't have a goal to make Trump a one term President. Heck their goal before he was even sworn in was to make sure he didn't even complete his FIRST term. And BTW he added in that statement that in the meant time they hoped to work WITH Obama on key legislation but then it was always Obama who looked at the Reps and said "elections have consequences and he was now President".

    So spare us the Obama was stopped by Republicans propaganda. He had a Dem Congress his first two years and he got his Obamacare and he got his stimulus and spending which drove the deficits to new heights all failing to get us into a full recovery and giving us the worst recovery in modern history.

    Which President recently said he didn't care about the Constitution when it came to his executive orders?
     
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    Glad you admit that Democrats actually accomplish things and Republicans just obstruct.

    October 23 2010 - Moscow Mitch
    The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.
     
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    Which of course is just another false statement on your part.

    October 23 2010 - Moscow Mitch
    The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.[/QUOTE]

    Yes speaking to campaign workers he said that. I note again you dishonestly cherry pick the quote and leave out the context and to whom he was speaking.

    Since you will not post the entire exchange I will

    McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”

    National Journal: What’s the job?

    McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

    National Journal: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?

    McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

    National Journal: What are the big issues?

    McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.

    Yea like the Dems wanted to make Trump a one term President and DID so did the Republicans..............DUH. Where is your complaint about that? When has an opposing party ever want the opposing President to be a two term President? Can you cite me which one?
     
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    Yes speaking to campaign workers he said that. I note again you dishonestly cherry pick the quote and leave out the context and to whom he was speaking.

    Since you will not post the entire exchange I will

    McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”

    National Journal: What’s the job?

    McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

    National Journal: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?

    McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

    National Journal: What are the big issues?

    McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.

    Yea like the Dems wanted to make Trump a one term President and DID so did the Republicans..............DUH. Where is your complaint about that? When has an opposing party ever want the opposing President to be a two term President? Can you cite me which one?[/QUOTE]


    Thank you for confirming that Republicans don’t actually do anything, they just obstruct their opposition.

    Moscow Mitch and his dishonest brethren did that for their entire term and then, once they had the presidency, tried to undo more. How many votes on undoing the ACA ? And how many of those votes failed , despite their majority ? More recently, has Mexico paid for the wall yet ?

    Obstruction , do nothing, thieves.
     
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    Thank you for confirming that Republicans don’t actually do anything, they just obstruct their opposition.

    Moscow Mitch and his dishonest brethren did that for their entire term and then, once they had the presidency, tried to undo more. How many votes on undoing the ACA ? And how many of those votes failed , despite their majority ? More recently, has Mexico paid for the wall yet ?

    Obstruction , do nothing, thieves.[/QUOTE]
    Ahhh it refuted you claim and proved they would be willing to work with him. The statement was about defeating him two years later.
     
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    And here is why the whole "will you accept the results that day" was a stupid question to begin with.

    Election Integrity Unit Enters the Scene in Arizona, Demands Full Report Before Results Certified

    The Arizona Attorney General’s Office is demanding an explanation before the state’s biggest county certifies its midterm election results.

    State Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright has asked Maricopa County to respond to numerous allegations of Election Day mismanagement....

    ....“Furthermore, statements made by both Chairman Gates and Recorder Richer, along with information Maricopa County released through official modes of communication appear to confirm potential statutory violations of title 16,” she wrote.

    Wright said the state prosecutor’s office possessed a sworn complaint attesting to uncounted ballots that were placed in the secure slot on the vote-counting machine — called “door 3” — being transported in black duffel bags intended for already tabulated ballots...
    https://www.patriotproject.com/elec...rizona-demands-full-report-results-certified/

    The entire vote in Maricopa County is an untangable mess and about the only way to correct it is to toss it and have a do over.
     
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    NOT GONNA HAPPEN...
     
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    We'll see the results are TOTALLY in question don't you want the true will of the people to prevail?
     
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    Lmao!
    It is Unconstitutional to have a "Do-Over" in Only 1 County...
    That principle was accentuated in Bush v Gore...
    (B/c such a "re-vote" (in ONLY 1 County) would violate the Equal Protection Clause)...
    Kelly and Hobbs WON!
    Masters and Lake LOST!
    Period! End of Story..:flagus:
     
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    Ahhhhh Florida election law does not apply in Arizona................recounts aren't do overs....................geeeezzz I can see this is just a waste of time.
     
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    You Are WRONG....
    And, you (Obviously Completely MISSED the Point)..:bored:
     
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    Is that what the DNC calls the current shape of the nation, "Doing things"? If so, the Repubs need to work even harder cleaning up their BULLSHIT ;)
     
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    Only if it's "the will of Some of the peoples" ;)
     
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    I agree, Republicans need to work even harder cleaning up their own bullshit. Maybe try and actually do something as opposed to just breaking things. :banana:
     
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    Dems didn’t accept the 2016 election. Welcome to the world Dems created. No election will ever again go uncontested.
     
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    WRONG!
    Of course, the Dems "Accepted the 2016 Election"?
    What choice did they have?
     
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    Welcome to the world the Orange Stain created:

    Where just saying the phrase "election fraud" means it actually happened.
    Where "fake news" and "alternative facts" are enough to excuse your own lies and ignorance.
    Where political cronies are expected to break the law and overturn election results when they don't come out the way you like them.
    Where ignorance overrules experts just because you got elected.
    Where not getting caught in a lie is the same as telling the truth.
    etc.etc.etc.

    Objectively, that is.
     

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