The initial Obama lie was told the day after, and getting the truth from your side is like pulling teeth; blasphemy laws anyone? (Me) http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=339632&p=1063652596#post1063652596 What lie was that? (Iriemon) Was his statement we reject all efforts true, and in compliance with our Constitution and his oath of office to protect and defend it, or was it closer to compliance with an anti-defamation of Islam law sought at the United Nations (of tyrants too)? (Me) "Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others." (Iriemon, quoting Obama official statecraft) I take it as a statement of principle for our nation as a whole. One would hope that is the objective. (Iriemon) http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=339632&p=1063672347#post1063672347 One does not respect something that it makes illegal. Digambara anyone? Warren Steed Jeffs? David Koresh? Since "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others," therefore, the belief and argument that Allah has created females to be the mates of males and that mass murder of Gays is holy cannot be blackened and stands as valid argument until the premise is impeached. Since We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, and Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths, therefore, respecting that blacks are Kenites the descendants of Cain and the mark is upon them is respected by Iriemon without denigration. Since we reject all efforts includes cartoons of the so-called prophet, freedom of speech , videos, therefore, there is no reason to disbelieve this statement is true, Were going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video, said Hillary Clinton. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn Let me state very clearly that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this video. We absolutely reject its contents. (Clinton) http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-pakistan-ad-denouncing-anti-muslim-film?lite What part of absolutely and reject do you not understand? It is fully consistent with the threat to arrest based upon the contents of the video and not the parole violation. If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241 Contents of the film: [Elder Woman] Source: LYBIO.net My age has exceeded 120 years and in all my young life I havent seen such a murderous thug as Muhammad. He kills men, captures women and children, robs the caravans, breaches agreements and treaties. He sells the children as slaves after he and his men have used them. And whats more, he does this all in the name of God. What God is this? That hes such an oppressor and so unfair to the people. http://lybio.net/tag/innocence-of-muslims-muhammad-movie-transcription/ Evidence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravan_raids (3) Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of 'Aisha: On the days of Mina, (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah) Abu Bakr came to her while two young girls were beating the tambourine and the Prophet was lying covered with his clothes. Abu Bakr scolded them and the Prophet uncovered his face and said to Abu Bakr, "Leave them, for these days are the days of 'Id and the days of Mina." 'Aisha further said, "Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said, 'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'." (Book #15, Hadith #103) "(3) Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." (Book #62, Hadith #137)" Iriemon has answered the question, we reject all efforts includes prohibiting freedom of speech, cartoons of the prophet, and Jesus denigrating the Pharisees saying: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44) http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8:44&version=KJV Please discuss all the other lies too.
Madcows MSNBC Why we did it documentary on Iraq leaves out this quote: Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders. One Iraq, Two Iraq, Three Iraq! Relevant to any discussion of why they did it and why Obamas administration wanted to absolutely reject the contents of freedom of speech, is the notion that somehow our actions caused 9/11 and Benghazi and not Saddam or other calls for or continuing Jihad, so obviously Madcow leaves out this quote too: July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm This notion that somehow the video caused Benghazi and not the basis of the first quote above taken from the fatwa of war, goes to the idea that all our problems are the result of our military strength, that somehow weakness and absolutely rejecting the contents of the video will save us from those that insist others bow down with those that bow down and keep up the prayer. Ambassador John Bolton was right Our Biggest National-Security Problem Is Barack Obama.
It seems clear the argument stands as valid; Obama and Clinton both lied, the United States allows denigration of beliefs and must do so for We the People to be free and have rule of law, therefore it must not reject all efforts to denigrate or blacken the beliefs co-called Prophets. From the point of view of the true believer the truth may be slander against the god or so-called Prophet, so careful analysis of the words and consequences of them is needed. Republican candidates that go up against any Democrat should familiar themselves with the arguments, think about it, try and to argue against it, and then use it; make the Democrats argue that Obama and Clinton did not lie.
My question to the Obama supporting left is this, What at this point can this regime do in order for you, it's loyal supporter to actually admit it's wrong? Obama himself isn't the problem folks, it's the look the other way diehard leftists that will lie and deceive and sell their mother into the sex slave industry if it means protecting the regime. Again, what can this regime do that is considered wrong to you? Serious mature responses please.
