Research Confirming Solar Climate Influence

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  1. Sunsettommy

    Sunsettommy Well-Known Member

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    Yup you still have nothing....

    Cheers.
     
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    Science is done by scientists.

    Wake me up when climatology changes it's mind.

    Which it won't...
     
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    Yawn.....

    You still have nothing.

    Sun/Ocean Dynamo dominates the weather on the planet which was long accepted by scientists for many decades until a few governments paid scientists create a cottage industry pedaling the stupid AGW conjecture which can't even keep up with the increased departure rate of energy from the planet and the postulated doubling warm forcing rate of CO2 is still negligible,

    "Next, here is the radical change in downwelling radiation at the surface from the increase in CO2 that is supposed to be driving the “CLIMATE EMERGENCY!!!” What I’ve shown is the change that in theory would have occurred from the changes in CO2 from 1750 to the present, and the change that in theory will occur in the future when CO2 increases from its present value to twice the 1750 value. This is using the generally accepted (although not rigorously derived) claim that the downwelling radiation change from a doubling of CO2 is 3.5 watts per square metre (W/m2). The purpose is to show how small these CO2-caused changes are compared to total downwelling radiation.

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    The changes in downwelling radiation from the increase in CO2 are trivially small, lost in the noise …"


    but math is too difficult for warmist/alarmists to handle.

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    Where is the link to the study or to the temperature data?

    Did you read the actual study where it is mostly based on modeling constructs?

    Meanwhile the public article is misleading since they don't tell you that most of the warming is at night and during the winter.

    From DMI showing arctic temperature back to the late 1950's, here is TODAYS chart LINK

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    See the warming during the winter and NOT in the summer? Go scroll through previous years it is highly educational.

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    The sea ice cover is no longer decreasing and hasn't been since 2007, July months:

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    September months:

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    Large El-Nino's drives the warming trend by spikes since 1979:

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    'If you can't blind them with your brilliance, bury them in BS.'
     
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    Translation: I can't address the evidence placed in front of me which is why I pretend to know anything and hide behind fallacies, empty replies and falsehoods which I have a lot of experience in.
     
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    It is a good feeling to be on the side of research results.
    New Study: A Post-2000 Increase In Absorbed Solar Energy ‘By Far The Largest Contribution’ To Warming
    By Kenneth Richard on 22. August 2022

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    Scientists have once again affirmed the 2000-2020 total greenhouse effect (longwave) forcing has been declining in recent decades just as absorbed solar radiation has been increasing due to cloud albedo modulation. The latter explains the net positive Earth Energy Imbalance (EEI) and consequent global warming during this period.
    Recently we detailed the satellite-observed decline in total (“all sky”) greenhouse effect forcing since 1985 and the concomitant increase in surface solar radiation over the last 35 years.

    Yet another scientific paper has been published affirming a -0.23 W/m² per decade−1 decline in total longwave forcing (the net impact due to changes in greenhouse gases and cloud cover) and a +0.66 W/m² per decade−1 (+1.3 W/m²) increase in absorbed solar radiation during the 21st century (March 2000 to March 2020).

    The net absorption of solar energy that has occurred due to the reduction of solar radiation reflected to space by clouds and aerosols is “by far the largest contribution to the increasing rate of change of EEI.” In other words, the impact of CO2 and other greenhouse gas forcing together with cloud has contributed a net cooling influence that has been soundly superseded by the increasing solar radiation trend.

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    Image Source: Stephens et al., 2022
     

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